Job Manifesto discussion RE: Summoner

[Korpg]

I hope that Peace Ruby will erase ALL debuffs including amnesia and curse/doom 100% of the time.

[Soundwave]

I hope that Peace Ruby will erase ALL debuffs including amnesia and curse/doom 100% of the time.

I Think it will because they are re looking at Spring Water, so it would only make sense to.

[Karbuncle]

Ramuh's BP will be absolutely worthless if its got the same long-ass charge timer as every other single BP to date...

Carby's will be very very very very very situational.

Spring Water (I assume thats what they meant) Being reworked? I feel a nerf coming so Carby's BP seems more special.

Over-all very Meh, But at least we know what to expect, And i can be happy with that!

Edit: Feed back on Current Bloodpacts?

Raise the power of 75BP's again, But only slightly, please. Increase the power of 70BPs for Titan, Levia, Ifrit, Ramuh, and Shiva, cause right now theres little reason to use anything other than Predator Claws.

Maybe make Carbuncle not a furry little useless pet? Increase the Combat abilities of Holy Mist so that it does more than 100 damage over Meteorite? It costs about the same MP as the 70~75 BPs theres no reason it should be so pathetically weak.

Make Titan's "Earthern Ward" Increase in potency along with duration with Summoning Magic over cap, Maybe cap out Titans Stoneskin at 350 or so. With Accession-Stoneskin, This isn't asking a lot.

Perhaps rework a few more wards to be a bit more potent... Like Warcry one, and the Enthunder one... so on.

[Soundwave]

I dunno how I feel about Stunga......like when would you use it lol?

[Miera]

SAM having a 3 min recast on 100 TP while SMN has 5, is just a slight annoyance.

Oh dear, First you weren't happy about PUPs being a better front line job DD than SMNs and comparing the two totally different polar opposite jobs and now it's SAM... What's next RNG?

SAMs use Meditate to you know to weaponskill and skll chain while SMNs don't.

By the way, SAMs are not the love children of SE anymore. WARs, MNKs and NINs are. But mostly WARs..

[Miera]

I dunno how I feel about Stunga......like when would you use it lol?

Hmmm... I guess when you are dong Crowd control like a SCH would. I usually Stunga when we aggro a bunch of mobs in Dyna or in Abyssea mass pulling for BLMs or WARs.

[Soundwave]

Well I guess a good + is with this being a Ward I'm assuming, maybe it will make Ramuh shine a bit more to a used avatar. instead of Shiva Shiva Shiva.

Also Ramuh will now have two types of stuns at will now, technically 3 but 2 on the same timer.

[Korpg]

I dunno how I feel about Stunga......like when would you use it lol?

With a very long TP move.....or when the mob is about to hit 25% HP (which is when anybody with stun should use it if it is up anyway, that is almost a guaranteed TP move right there)

[Soundwave]

If under the effect of Ward and If its not instant what good is this stun?

[Karbuncle]

Well I guess a good + is with this being a Ward I'm assuming, maybe it will make Ramuh shine a bit more to a used avatar. instead of Shiva shiva shiva.

Well at least Ramuh will now have two types of stuns at will now, technically 3 but 2 on the same timer.

Shiva's only the "best" magical one because of Abyssea and Atma of the Beyond.

Outside of that its mostly equal, However since you can only pick 2 BP's to fully Merit, and the difference in power thanks to TP from a Fully merited one, and one with only a single merit is so large, You generally merit to max your favorite/Best performer and go from there.

Outside, Technically Ifrit's is the most powerful, thanks to that new Fervor Ring increasing ifrits Magic Attack by like, 1.

Its a matter of preferences, the only reason you see shiva is because people prefer her, shes no more powerful than any others.