[Job Adjustmentｓ Manifesto] RDM

[cidbahamut]

In fact you can pretty much divide the serious RDM's from the non-serious ones by the tone of their arguments. The serious ones want changes made to get RDM away from the haste / refresh / cure robot job it's become, they want more enfeebles more enhancements and more melee capability, yes all three. The ones just using it to get gear want as little changed as possible other then to add Cure V, they use the job exclusively to get gear for their other jobs, the jobs they like, and any positive changes to RDM could possible jeopardize their positions. I view them no better as those naked BRD's whoring merits.

Sweeping generalizations are bad bro. You don't have to be a melee enthusiast to be serious about the job.

[Greatguardian]

Sweeping generalizations are bad bro. You don't have to be a melee enthusiast to be serious about the job.

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I could care less about Haste Cycles because, frankly, they don't bother me or inhibit my other spellcasting in the slightest. This is especially true with the 2x duration the AF3 set offers. People burn out on jobs because they get bored. There is nothing boring about Red Mage if you're serious and/or half decent about/at it.

This entire line of discussion is boring because it panders to the lowest common denominator. Good Red Mages don't need to be "forced" or "obligated" to Haste/Refresh everyone, nor does it inhibit them in the slightest. You can cast other spells in between Hastes while the recast is down, you know.

[SpankWustler]

This entire line of discussion is boring because it panders to the lowest common denominator. Good Red Mages don't need to be "forced" or "obligated" to Haste/Refresh everyone, nor does it inhibit them in the slightest. You can cast other spells in between Hastes while the recast is down, you know.

Dude, this is a job adjustment thread. Whatever expectations you have will never be met.

I'm just glad people have stopped running around naked, bodies painted with whatever they could find in the pantry, screaming "We're magic swordsmen!" over and over.

Now, folks are dressed up for a discussion over a meal...and...rubbing the pot roast on their cummerbunds and screaming "We're magic swordsmen!" every ten minutes or so.

I've lowered my standards to the point that anything other than "I want to do something this job doesn't do and never will." or "I want to do this job naked. Totally naked. Forever." is a valid point of discussion.

[Greatguardian]

I've lowered my standards to the point that anything other than "I want to do something this job doesn't do and never will." or "I want to do this job naked. Totally naked. Forever." is a valid point of discussion.

I don't mind points of discussion revolving around those that are less-than-awesomely geared, or experienced. I don't mind the assumption that not all Red Mages are willing to obtain full AF3+2 and other gear in a timely fashion. But holy crap, griping about Haste cycles reeks of nothing but lazy, with or without the awesome AF3+2 set bonus that makes it even easier.

[SpankWustler]

Holy crap, griping about Haste cycles reeks of nothing but lazy, with or without the awesome AF3+2 set bonus that makes it even easier.

I agree 100%. I'm just glad an enhancing spell cast on other characters is being talked about at all, I guess?

I've never had any issues with Haste cycles on White Mage, and it's even easier and more thoughtless on Red Mage. It confuses me to the point of curiosity when people complain about it.