Job Manifesto discussion RE: Summoner

[Soundwave]

I agree with Raz, I also enjoy his posts they are very sound to me.

also I think raz does not have enough "likes" for his posts as well.

I've always had mixed feeling as to "why" others don't "invite" a summoner to do selected things. I believe that every job is a tool in the box, and unfortunately at the current time summoner is just not the right tool for the job.

[Moonbaq]

Umm... Yea They Gave Us New Abilities .. But They REALLY Need To Fix Skill Ups !!!! Major Thing About Smn Is Skill Ups Why Cant They Be More Frequent? Can Take 1hour+ To Get 1 Skill Up or Even A .2 Skill Up. All I Ask Is That They Fix Summon Skill To Where It Raises Quicker Like Blue Magic Or Enhancing. Its Driving Me Nuts Getting Little Skill In Long Amounts Of Times, When I Can Be Using The Time For SOmething More Benefitial

[Korpg]

inb4caplettersmeananything

Skillups are easy to get, just go to a EM+ mob and start spamming BPs.

[Moonbaq]

inb4caplettersmeananything

Skillups are easy to get, just go to a EM+ mob and start spamming BPs.

Ummm Not So Easy If You Dont Wanna Go Through the Hassel Finding A EM+ Mob
Just Summoning Avatars Over Again. I Just Wanna Skill Up Not Fight

[Tarage]

Please stop capitalizing every first letter Moonbaq.

Skillups are a problem, but a very minor one. With all that is wrong with SMN, I'd like to think this one shouldn't be a focus.

That's all I'll say about it though. If people really want it, I won't complain.

I'd like to see the pet AI fixed too though, even if it's just the minor things I asked for.

[Dallas]

Show your numbers, real numbers, not your fuzzy math and maybe people might still believe you.
Or are you going to continue stating you can beat an Ukon WAR?

You do not get to participate. You get to see what melee SMN was doing in 2006-2007 or you get nothing. You will agree to never again waste anyone's time with your lies or you get nothing. You might as well put me on ignore because soon no one will be talking to you ever.

[Razushu]

I agree with Raz, I also enjoy his posts they are very sound to me.

also I think raz does not have enough "likes" for his posts as well.

I've always had mixed feeling as to "why" others don't "invite" a summoner to do selected things. I believe that every job is a tool in the box, and unfortunately at the current time summoner is just not the right tool for the job.

Thanks man.


I think it all comes down to who you play with, I've never really had a problem getting people to invite my SMN to things, except seal farming(damn procs). SMN does fine as a support/DD, not everyone's gonna believe that or be willing to give it a try unfortunately.

[Korpg]

You do not get to participate. You get to see what melee SMN was doing in 2006-2007 or you get nothing. You will agree to never again waste anyone's time with your lies or you get nothing. You might as well put me on ignore because soon no one will be talking to you ever.

A) Because it is still 2006-07, right?
B) You still won't prove anything, so show your real numbers.
C) Where is that parse?

[Moonbaq]

Its the way i type? does it matter? sorry if it does, but i do think its a major issue maybee not the first one but one of them. skill helps accuracy which is important and when your busy leveling its hard to keep capped

[Razushu]

Its the way i type? does it matter? sorry if it does, but i do think its a major issue maybee not the first one but one of them. skill helps accuracy which is important and when your busy leveling its hard to keep capped

I never even noticed it before Tarage pointed it out lol. Summoning magic like most magics, is more of a pain to level, but seriously fighting serious monsters is the best way to level it. Soloing or killing NMs in a group is the best way to level, it takes no time at all compared to summon spamming outside a city(I gave that up at lvl25), it's far too boring. Pick an Avatar with a debuff ward and it will fly up(I spammed Shiva's sleepga when fighting NMs).

I've been playing around with Mangey tailed Marvin for the WHM cape, and I wish I had have found him while trying to skill up lol. Diabolos with Atmas of Vicissitude & Ducal Guard w/Noctoshield makes him kinda immortal, was spamming Night Terror and Somnolence on it.