FINAL FANTASY XI Job Adjustments Manifesto: Paladin

[Aramaic]

Okay I usually just sit back and read these forums and try to not have my head explode from the poor understanding of the job by the box burned people and or smn burned PLD's that seem to camp this forum. To those PLD's that actually xp'ed the job and by xp'ed the job I mean leveled it without the aforementioned horribleness as well as syninc it to 75 back in the day.

First off its not SE's fault that you don't have a cure kit build or enmity build for all of your actions towards mobs. Instead of being angry because everyone doing an empy weapon caps hate faster than you. Please get off your ass and use the time you spend here bitching to get an Alamce. Not a WoE ODD doesn't exist weapon an actual Almace where ODD Crits reach 500-600 dmg per swing.

Have all abbysites don't care how long you think it will take you just get them all. Get all atma's needed for getting Savior. By getting these you will have all important Atma's need for the next step. Use appropriate Atma's for CDC build. Either RR,GH, Apoc or RR, Savior, Apoc hell even Omni, RR, Apoc-- I think you get the idea.

Once that is done use actual dex + str + atk gear swaps--- for the love of all things sacred stop ws in the same gear you tank in and than bitch it sucks. In fact stop never changing gear period. If your not blinking enough to give your whm a seizure your not playing the job right. I do have sets for when I don't want my shit pushed in by a HNM and I also have my capped haste tp set both are appropriate use when needed.

Lastly, stop asking for more ways to get enmity. It won't help unless PLD is allowed to surpass the hardcap aka. like with Burtgang passing - PDT cap or Aegis with -MDT cap. I could have 40 job abilities to give me enmity but with the gear PLD has already there is no need for more JA's for enmity. We have plenty at our ready if people would just learn to build their kits right instead of taking the fast lazy way out of begging SE for shit we don't need.

Sorry if this angers anyone but really I don't care, I am just tired of seeing horrible PLD's making legitimate hard working PLD's look like shit. That is all continue to whine now.

[Rorrick]

Okay I usually just sit back and read these forums and try to not have my head explode from the poor understanding of the job by the box burned people and or smn burned PLD's that seem to camp this forum. To those PLD's that actually xp'ed the job and by xp'ed the job I mean leveled it without the aforementioned horribleness as well as syninc it to 75 back in the day.

First off its not SE's fault that you don't have a cure kit build or enmity build for all of your actions towards mobs. Instead of being angry because everyone doing an empy weapon caps hate faster than you. Please get off your ass and use the time you spend here bitching to get an Alamce. Not a WoE ODD doesn't exist weapon an actual Almace where ODD Crits reach 500-600 dmg per swing.

Have all abbysites don't care how long you think it will take you just get them all. Get all atma's needed for getting Savior. By getting these you will have all important Atma's need for the next step. Use appropriate Atma's for CDC build. Either RR,GH, Apoc or RR, Savior, Apoc hell even Omni, RR, Apoc-- I think you get the idea.

Once that is done use actual dex + str + atk gear swaps--- for the love of all things sacred stop ws in the same gear you tank in and than bitch it sucks. In fact stop never changing gear period. If your not blinking enough to give your whm a seizure your not playing the job right. I do have sets for when I don't want my shit pushed in by a HNM and I also have my capped haste tp set both are appropriate use when needed.

Lastly, stop asking for more ways to get enmity. It won't help unless PLD is allowed to surpass the hardcap aka. like with Burtgang passing - PDT cap or Aegis with -MDT cap. I could have 40 job abilities to give me enmity but with the gear PLD has already there is no need for more JA's for enmity. We have plenty at our ready if people would just learn to build their kits right instead of taking the fast lazy way out of begging SE for shit we don't need.

Sorry if this angers anyone but really I don't care, I am just tired of seeing horrible PLD's making legitimate hard working PLD's look like shit. That is all continue to whine now.

I can rattle off the gear in every set I have if you want. Rampart enmity set, Rampart absorbtion set, Cover set, PDT with shield, PDT without shield, Cure IV set (cheat set, potency set and an enmity set), Cure III set (cheat set, potency set, and an enmity set), Flash enmity, Flash hybrid, Flash haste, Utsu Ichi, Utsu Ni, Enhancing, Divine, Holy, two-handed TP set, sword/shield TP set, Vorpal Blade/CDC/Torcleaver/Cataclysm/Flash Nova/Atonement sets, MDT with and without a shield, spell interruption down set, fast cast/haste set, Chivalry set, JA enmity sets, elemental resist sets, low accuracy set, shield skill set (lol), idle set, Refresh/Regen set, kiting sets, blah blah blah.

If you can hold the mob off your friends from the get-go, awesome. They either suck at their jobs or are holding back. The issues with the "I can tank fine you guys must suck" argument are that A) it relies on you having Almace to even be passably effective (which is not a legitimate solution. I don't care how easy you perceive it to be, some people can't devote three days straight to getting one), and it implies that either your friends are playing conservatively, or simply suck at their jobs.

There is no reason to play this game conservatively. Paladin serves no purpose because of this, and hasn't for a long, long time. A competent SAM/DRK/WAR/MNK/NIN can tank just about anything in this game (barring perhaps T4 Voidwatch NMs, I haven't tried one on MNK yet), and take as little, or less damage than a Paladin (barring Ochain, which is, again, not a viable solution). Yet Square insists buffing Paladin's offense would be overpowered, while Monks counter 80% of melee attacks directed at them (70% outside Abyssea), and Ninjas or Thieves just evade them entirely. They also apparently refuse to even advance the job in a defensive capacity, which completely baffles me.

Enmity is not the problem. Paladin contributes nothing to 95% of the game.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

First off its not SE's fault that you don't have a cure kit build or enmity build for all of your actions towards mobs.

Ah yes, the eternal answer: MOAR GEAR SWAPS!

Instead of being angry because everyone doing an empy weapon caps hate faster than you. Please get off your ass and use the time you spend here bitching to get an Alamce.

First off, "Go get an empyrean weapon" only really works if nobody else in the group has one.

Secondly, this is a Catch-22: It's kind of hard to go out and get an empyrean when your job is completely useless in the process necessary to get an empyrean.

Have all abbysites don't care how long you think it will take you just get them all.

Same problems as above: only works if nobody else in the group has them, and effectively requires having another 90 job to be useful in getting those abyssites.

(and you'd need serious cajones to suggest just book/key burning another job to 90 after that elitist "old skool" rant you started your post with)

[Defiledsickness]

the only hate control issues pld has is that you cant keep hate over the healers in Abyssea (or i couldn't before almace, maybe i can now). but mnk can reach huge countering in abyssea and never get one shotted (plus do enough dmg to recap the hate lost from dmg taken).

outside abyssea (voidwatch) pld is awesome. even without almace and just using Atonement pld's are good. (of course aegis and ochain are awesome to have) not saying other jobs maybe cant tank, but they dont want to tank Ironclad :P

the only problem pld has is that it uses swords and swords (mostly) suck. the club weaponskill True Strike beats all sword ws's except for CDC. but dont act like SAM is good in abyssea or DRG or DRK. so pld's cant really complain.

[Zagen]

outside abyssea (voidwatch) pld is awesome. even without almace and just using Atonement pld's are good. (of course aegis and ochain are awesome to have) not saying other jobs maybe cant tank, but they dont want to tank Ironclad :P

I haven't done the Voidwatch fight but from the ones inside abyssea and what I've read about the fight, I would first think of Ochain/Aegis PLD as Tank options, and then NIN or THF for evasion tanking, and then MNK for weaker Evasion/DD/HP tank, and then finally PLD with a non-relic/emp shield.

Now you're probably thinking well you haven't done it so you wouldn't know, and you know what you're right I don't know the fight first hand what I do know is that En-Stun, En-Amnesia, and Encumbrance all gimp PLD's ability to tank which is why without the high block rates of Aegis/Ochain I wouldn't think of a PLD first as my tank choice.

but dont act like SAM is good in abyssea or DRG or DRK. so pld's cant really complain.

I hope you're talking about NM fights for proccing red/yellow/blue because DRG is an amazing DD inside abyssea.


PLD is severely broken when the player base can think of 1 event, and only the upper tiers of that event is where a PLD is needed. On top of that it is preferred to have a Relic/Emp Shield to be the preferred tank in that portion of that 1 event.... SE is really blind to this is all I'm getting from their responses.

[Unleashhell]

Okay I usually just sit back and read these forums and try to not have my head explode from the poor understanding of the job by the box burned people and or smn burned PLD's that seem to camp this forum. To those PLD's that actually xp'ed the job and by xp'ed the job I mean leveled it without the aforementioned horribleness as well as syninc it to 75 back in the day.

First off its not SE's fault that you don't have a cure kit build or enmity build for all of your actions towards mobs. Instead of being angry because everyone doing an empy weapon caps hate faster than you. Please get off your ass and use the time you spend here bitching to get an Alamce. Not a WoE ODD doesn't exist weapon an actual Almace where ODD Crits reach 500-600 dmg per swing.

Have all abbysites don't care how long you think it will take you just get them all. Get all atma's needed for getting Savior. By getting these you will have all important Atma's need for the next step. Use appropriate Atma's for CDC build. Either RR,GH, Apoc or RR, Savior, Apoc hell even Omni, RR, Apoc-- I think you get the idea.

Once that is done use actual dex + str + atk gear swaps--- for the love of all things sacred stop ws in the same gear you tank in and than bitch it sucks. In fact stop never changing gear period. If your not blinking enough to give your whm a seizure your not playing the job right. I do have sets for when I don't want my shit pushed in by a HNM and I also have my capped haste tp set both are appropriate use when needed.

Lastly, stop asking for more ways to get enmity. It won't help unless PLD is allowed to surpass the hardcap aka. like with Burtgang passing - PDT cap or Aegis with -MDT cap. I could have 40 job abilities to give me enmity but with the gear PLD has already there is no need for more JA's for enmity. We have plenty at our ready if people would just learn to build their kits right instead of taking the fast lazy way out of begging SE for shit we don't need.

Sorry if this angers anyone but really I don't care, I am just tired of seeing horrible PLD's making legitimate hard working PLD's look like shit. That is all continue to whine now.

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