Another food update?

[Karinya_of_Carbuncle]

In abyssea, there's a huge reason to almost use Red Curry Buns exclusively (except for several evasive nms), as it increases your dps substantially.

In abyssea, there's almost zero reason to care what your dps is. Food doesn't give you more procs, which is all physical DD jobs are there for anyway. (Well, I guess you could use Store TP food, but the effect would be trivial compared to regain atmas or /SAM.)

Similar remarks apply for mages -- even if there were decent macc/MAB foods, which there aren't (imagine a mage pizza, it would be like permanent ascetic's drink), they still would only get you more damage, not more yellow !!s. And cookies are pointless when nobody bothers to sit for MP because they have Minikin Monstrosity.

[SNK]

Whilst some people are now finding out about this skillup food, I would love to hear some answers on some items that have yet to be figured out.

Foolkiller for one and the belt from the T2VNM Scorpion. The Latents for those items were never figured out..

[Sparthos]

Fatality Belt latent is being under the effect of Mighty Strikes.

[InfamousDS]

I wonder myself if all these effects stack, which may be how they were intended to be used. Farm up a Prouesse, Chomp a Saltena, and head to the depths of Zeruhn Mines to have face pounded upon in a vain attempt to cap Parry while Master is up. If we assume linear increases (Rate x2, for example, or Rate +100% [Which is the same, but easier to manipulate.]), then stacking would do the following.

Master: I've read it doubles, but can't recall where. +100%
Ring: Assuming same effect as MM, +100%
Food: Saltena is less I guess, maybe Elshena is more? +25% and +50%
Total Effects: +225% or +250%, which is Rate x3.25 or Rate x3.5

Now that would be truly sweet!

EDIT:
For Instance:
You are skilling up Sword. Due to a terrible glitch, you cannot skill-up past 209, however your skill-up rate is constant. You have parsed a 10% rate for all skill-ups so far. Kupowers come into effect and your rate instantly parses as 20%. You suddenly recall you have a Prouesse Ring in MogSack, you equip while you wait for the GM to fix it and see 30% rate. The GM gets lost on the way to The Boyahda Tree, so you buy a Saltena from a Bazaar nearby and see your rate increase to 32%. The GM fixes it finally, and all is well again!
NOTE:
None of that is real, just a playful story that demonstrates concept. Odds are it'll be 3.2% xD

[Babekeke]

Some info on whether or not the magic foods are meant to affect summoning magic would be nice please, devs!

[Tagrineth]

Whether or not Saltena and Martial can stack is irrelevant, I'm quite sure Saltena doesn't work if you're above 100% TP. I tested it a good bit on WAR and noticed my skillups were sporadic at best while holding TP for Waltzes, but when I switched to dumping TP, skillups radically increased. Very noticeable phenomenon, everyone I've told to try it has noticed the same thing.

[noodles355]

In abyssea, there's almost zero reason to care what your dps is.

What the hell? Yes there is. Kill faster, pop next pops faster, get drops faster, get out faster, save stones.

[Vortex]

What the hell? Yes there is. Kill faster, pop next pops faster, get drops faster, get out faster, save stones.

Which leads to "guys you're killing it to fast we havn't proced and while procing you're doing to much damage because no one is smart enough to carry low damage weapons for procing, finnaly procs "ok go nuts!, oh, it's at 10%.." so yea,

There IS almost zero reason to care about your dps, stuff already dies fast enough, without food. All meele do is just come to proc, you won't see anyone poping an NM they need a proc on and killing it as fast as possible. unless they don't care about procing, so in a weird way, killing fast can actually be a burden.

"Save stones" does not really apply to people with 70+

[Karbuncle]

I want you to please forgive me if i come off rude. (especially if im not understanding you right_

Which leads to "guys you're killing it to fast we havn't proced and while procing you're doing to much damage because no one is smart enough to carry low damage weapons for procing, finnaly procs "ok go nuts!, oh, it's at 10%.." so yea,

Unless you're with people who's biggest achievement in life is counting to potato, When the focus is to proc, You get procs first, then focus on Killing. Not both at the same time.

Your DPS matters, because killing something faster = Popping next one faster/moving to next mob faster = more drops in that time = better over-all Haul for your group.

If you don't care about this, thats fine, simply do not talk like its perfectly acceptable. Some of us do not believe this to be true and when focusing on things and being efficient enough to move on with other things, The damage you deal is useful.

There IS almost zero reason to care about your dps, stuff already dies fast enough, without food. All meele do is just come to proc, you won't see anyone poping an NM they need a proc on and killing it as fast as possible. unless they don't care about procing, so in a weird way, killing fast can actually be a burden.

You proc first, Then zerg, your performance helps everyone around you.

Again, If you don't feel killing a mob quicker to move on to other mobs or your other activities is worth improving your gear/weapons/atmas/etc, Thats fine, If you feel its not worth your time to better yourself and help your party more, thats fine too.

"Save stones" does not really apply to people with 70+

I have 350+ Some odd stones, thats not the point. The point is unless all you do with stones is terrible pick up groups full of full Teal/perle/Aurore failures who are the same type of players who pee their pants when someone mentions the word "Ruby Light", then your DPS does matter.

"DPS doesn't matter" is the reason Pick-up EXP groups usually crash and burn when you get 1 ruby light, while i can sit there with capped Ruby/azure/amber and keep up my time just fine solo on Puppetmaster, while skilling up.

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Anyway, Sorry if i come off a bit angry, i try not to be.

[Raksha]

I think you guys are using the term "DPS" differently.

I think he's talking about normal melee hits or "white damage" as opposed to WSs.

You're saying you want to pump out as much damage in as little amount of time (which would also be considered DPS).

Maybe I'm wrong though.