The noob moments that you have witnessed that made you /facepalm...

[Saefinn]

This is 100% fact.

Also (@Saefinn), most high level players are pretty chill. The people who tend to run their mouths off all the time in Port Jeuno about how awesome they are are typically mid-level morons who think they're hot stuff. Most of the best players in this game tend to keep to themselves or their friendgroup. It is universally frustrating to deal with mule-headed or willfully ignorant players.

Yeah, I know plenty of high levels that are pretty chill and have good fun with them - I love the level headed folk on my server. I know the idiots are in the minorities but I've never bothered to check their level range, so perhaps you are right they're the mid level range and even what somebody described to me yesterday as 'high level noobs', as much as I hate the word 'noob', it was a fair description for the group of people who burn their jobs with little to no idea what they're doing with them, whilst I don't think burning a job necessarily makes people bad players, but I can see that people may assume that because levelling is easy, the rest of the game is easy and at times get cocky about it (in the minority though), but of course, it's only easy when you know what you're doing.

Originally Posted by Drhatchet
Some of the better players (you don't have to be elite to be good) gave up on teaching others because others typically don't want to be taught. I can't count the number of people I've met that don't gear swap for anything, then write the job off as crap later. I've seriously had at least 4 variations of "then I have less inventory space" when I tell them about gear swaps, and some even called me a cheater stating "Its a glitch/hack/mod that lets you do that!" Some noobs learn (I happen to have a few I've helped over the years on my FL), but most seem to be noobs by choice.

I suppose to an extent, fair enough, if you can't get somebody to learn (and perhaps I should avoid too many generalisations), then it's not worth the effort and perhaps going as far as kicking them will be enough of a slap on the face to say, "perhaps you should listen", depending on the size of their ego of course, I encounter people in RL with egos so huge that anything you say will reinforce how awesome they think they are so it's not unlikely some of these people playing MMORPGs too. But I find sometimes that when somebody does something wrong or they don't know something they perhaps should then there people in the 'elitist' group (I use 'elitist' not because they're superior players, most of the time they're not, but because it appears they have an elitist attitude - it's the best word I can use to describe them, unless somebody has a better word) call these people noobs, berate them and maybe even kick them without giving them anything all that constructive. Perhaps a minority again, but I find these people ridiculous and funny in my own sadistic sort of way, my only other option is to ignore them, which some argue is best, but I enjoy laughter enough to find them funny without even the need to feed them - though I was tempted by the fail troll who wanted us to open a banishing gate for him.

Anyway I'll be patient enough to reason with somebody so I can offer them advice, not to instruct them how to play their job, but help them understand what's useful about it and why people invite them to parties and if they're invited for the reason, ask that they do it. I can understand some people can be frustrating and not all listen straight away (I have seen some folk go on the defensive and usually find I can deflect that), but I'd be lying if I didn't say I've found people frustrating in the game, particularly when they don't read the chat box (and attack the mob you told them not to), but when I get around to talking to them, a lot of the time, people will listen and learn from their mistakes - sure it took a death for a person to learn that if I'm helping them, I am a better sleep nuker than a heal nuker (as per the instruction: "please don't attack, I can sleep them"), but they learn. Perhaps my experience differs from other peoples, who knows?

As for people who say a job sucks because of gear swaps, I've not encountered it, but I can see how lack of gear swap can make some jobs look crap, I think if anybody played my COR they'd probably hate the job because it's unloved at the moment and is not worthy for anything 75+.

[edit]
Sorry for the essay of a post, I guess I got carried away.

[illusionist]

@Where:Xarcabard

@When:Almost every time

@What I wanted to do:Run from Vahzl gate crystal to o.p,to warp to Windy

@lvl WHM90 or BLM90,been 9 years in FFXI

--------I ran to o.p watching my map's marker,but my direction bends 30 degree to 180 degree.

But I don't /facepalm,cuz I can see nothing and I will never arrive o.p.

[Kojo]

When I was doing the Quadav NM for WAR AF feet in P. Mines, I died and a lv 67 DRG came in all like "Ahahaha! He died, I'm taking his NM and getting his drop!" and Jumped it... and died really fast. Made me lol.

[Alukat]

level 13 party in valkurm dunes, pld tank (he used GS) and i was the main healer (whm with club + shield, you never know if the tank sucks ^^)
i had to cure bomb the pld that hate always switched to me, so i was main healer + main tank, funny times.

my biggest noob moment however was this:

1 1/2 year i level rdm to 60 wondering why i got no party invites (did other stuff too)
then someone told me there is a lfp button xD

Edit: most annoying moment was this:

someone asked if he and his friends could join dynamis - jeuno, i was fine with it
and 11 ppl are a nice boost in kill speed
however after a while they messed up everything (aggro, attacking wrong mobs) and their dmg was meh.
then they guy who asked me to join, told me that he is 11-boxing! ><

[Michae]

Lvl 90 thf, with +2 gear, twilight knife, etc asking "What does treasure hunter mean?" and was dead serious. Made me laugh and cry at the same time.

[Rosina]

a paladin in the subterran who keot telling me how to play monk, but didn't play paladin at all. Never tanked well then died after a bit. I told hiom I would do better if you actually tanked. He said "i'm watching TV" He died then rage quit soon after.

had another tank who was stoned off his rocker and forgot HE was the tank.

having to pull as any job in any party at any level because the ranger would refuse saying " why do I need to pull" or a theif who :forgot their ranged weapon" Or go "pulling is boring". This includes whm blm rdm.

[Rosina]

Some of the better players (you don't have to be elite to be good) gave up on teaching others because others typically don't want to be taught. I can't count the number of people I've met that don't gear swap for anything, then write the job off as crap later. I've seriously had at least 4 variations of "then I have less inventory space" when I tell them about gear swaps, and some even called me a cheater stating "Its a glitch/hack/mod that lets you do that!" Some noobs learn (I happen to have a few I've helped over the years on my FL), but most seem to be noobs by choice.

umm gear swaping isn;t all that great, It hurts the healer also >.> just fyi

[Meyi]

umm gear swaping isn;t all that great, It hurts the healer also >.> just fyi

/facepalm

It's called <stal>.

[Reiterpallasch]

If your healer has issues healing while you blink, then that's truly a /facepalm moment.

SE added a nifty little macro to the game that lets you target others and cast on them even if they never even appear on your screen a loooong time ago, but trying to explain that to most people just nets you the "but then I can't target people outside of my party!" excuse.

[Zatias]

Oh my God...

*headdesk*