Petition: clickandbuy the only way no,thanks.

[Hioki]

Used UltimatePay and Paid with Paypal. Besides not being able to buy Crysta in exact amounts(5, 10, 20 but no 15?) I think this is easily a better work around if you don't want to use Clicknbuy. Why not use this option instead?

[Revanchist]

Used UltimatePay and Paid with Paypal. Besides not being able to buy Crysta in exact amounts(5, 10, 20 but no 15?) I think this is easily a better work around if you don't want to use Clicknbuy. Why not use this option instead?

While that is a option, there are some countries where Crysta isn't available, due to legal reasons. There are probably some who don't have a Paypal account, have had bad dealings etc or just don't like doing anything with money online which is understandable (look at what happened with Sony not so long ago... a few of my friends were burned in that fiasco).

For some players, payment directly by debit/credit card is a more easier option for them and they may want to continue with that method, instead of dealing with Crysta or prepaid gamer cards etc. Speaking for myself, I don't think it's fair for those gamers to be penalised for not going along with what's now available, when the payment method they've been using for the last 10 years has worked just fine.

@Octaviane : I've seen how fiery some threads can get on many other forums. Some go looking for trouble specifically as they 'get off' on seeing how many people respond negatively. To do so, in this case towards Rosina or anyone else, won't serve any purpose at all... except maybe get the moderators to close this thread. We, the gamers, have a right to know what's going on, and if there's anything which can be done... and for SE to remain close lipped like they have means one of a few things...

A: They don't care, which I doubt. If that was the case, the amount of revenue which they could conceivably lose over this decision could be rather substantial, and for a company where it's only steady influx of revenue is this game, I don't think they'd be that stupid.

B: They didn't think it'd cause as much backlash as it obviously has (up to 69 pages and over 680 posts so far... and it's only been a few days since this was announced. That'd send a sign to SE, that's somethings gone wrong and we, the consumer, want answers).

C: They're looking into rectifying the situation, but don't want to say anything yet until they have something more concrete to offer (as what the two moderators (Robert "Hvinire" Peeler and Matt "Bayohne" Hilton have already stated).

28 days til the end of the month... still plenty of time for something to be done about this.

[Dragoy]

28 days til the end of the month... still plenty of time for something to be done about this.

Though it would seem that if, for a reason or another, there is a problem with the payment via the old system, even if the card is OK and the money is there and it just worked for another account and would normally work after merely re-entering the card-number, you would then be forced into using the new system already.


I do not know if this goes for accounts not linked to a SqEX Account yet, but I just had it happen to me, with the POL Accounts linked already back when the Satchel came about.

[Sp1cyryan]

I honestly don't have any hope for SE anymore. They rather make us work for something we pay for and just cut their losses with whoever walks away while saving money on their end on transaction fees.

Please prove me wrong SE.

That thread would have been in the thousands of dollars, and was almost to one thousand after only a few days.

[Rosina]

You guys need to stop making up stuff about me, misunderstand what i'm saying, or twist what I'm saying.

First off I payed for ffxi using my dads credit union debit card. The credit unuin bank cept screwing up where to put my money and about 4 years ago every month I had a "payment" issue. I paid 3 mnths in advance to make sure I had money. And because I was only working part time. My boyfriend steped in and paid for my account, after dealing wuth the issue for 1/2 a year.

Second, I do know how credit cards work. And if their fraudulent charges your credit can take a hit. But now adays most CC companiex have fraud protection and are not liable for ID theft. It is also perrty easy to cancle and set up new credit cards. (my old jobs I noticed people having a good 10 CCs)

third because of the above, this is why I do not personaly have a credit or debit card. I perfer playing mmo with time cards or point cards of some kind so I'm not freely putting my personal info in the system.

[Rosina]

part 2

Secondly, there is no reason to be insultive to me. I did nothing to you guys. If your upset over A thread I made. That is your fault for for not misunderstanding why I wrote it. I am not attacking anyone. I just feel you guys can go about this in a better way. Instead of looking like a bunch of children. They are no longer going to use playonline. They are phasing this out and only using it as a launcher. The payment change is just part of this.

If you look up the transfer, you should have noticed once the transfer is complete. You lose the ability to use the playonline friendslist.
In recent years they have been slowly shutting down playonline features. Or no longer updating them. I'm also not talking about the website but the playonline on the ps2/360 or when you launch the ffxi client.

There is no need to take your anger out on people also. I personaly do not care at the monent. I need to use click and buy for the moment If something happens I will notify SE which is the proper way,

[Sp1cyryan]

I wanted in on the emerging billing signature trend. So I took a few minutes to make one. Now I can make a statement about it with out having to constantly post the same talking points.

[Yinnyth]

Used UltimatePay and Paid with Paypal. Besides not being able to buy Crysta in exact amounts(5, 10, 20 but no 15?) I think this is easily a better work around if you don't want to use Clicknbuy. Why not use this option instead?

Well first of all, that's a ton of extra steps for me to go through, and I'd have to repeatedly remember to go buy more crysta everytime I start running out. I got a credit card for convenience. I don't have to go to the bank every week and withdraw cash, and I can buy stuff off the internet quickly (provided I'm willing to trust the company with my information). In order to do this, I would have to:

1. Get a paypal account.
2. Write down my paypal information in a secure location.
3. Log in to paypal.
4. Use paypal to buy crysta from SE.
5. Use crysta to pay my monthly fee.
6. Repeat steps 3-5.

Suddenly my credit card doesn't seem nearly as convenient. The whole system is inefficient and infuriating. Take my damn money and shut up. I hate the stupid "money in the bucket" systems that companies have been going with lately. Refer to this penny arcade comic: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/03/02/

What's even more retarded is that if you have leftover money in the bucket, you don't get to take it back. That money just stays in the bucket.

[Rosina]

I wanted in on the emerging billing signature trend. So I took a few minutes to make one. Now I can make a statement about it with out having to constantly post the same talking points.

you know most of that siggy is infact BS.

they are getting rid of Playonline. And mostly only going to use it as a launcher. they are not just changing the billing just to change the billing. They are making all our Paylonine accounts into Square enix accounts. The change of billing is something that goes along with this change.

If you guys to a rage break. You would actually realize a few stuff. The appologist as you guys rudely call them are actually being the logical ones here. First off. the better buiness guys are not a great source anymore. Pretty much as my b/f put it. You can buy an A=+ from them. Second, take what you read online with a grain of salt. It may not be true. Third, not all bad reviews are a source for truth. We do not know exactly what happen between the the 2.

[Kojo]

I wanted in on the emerging billing signature trend. So I took a few minutes to make one. Now I can make a statement about it with out having to constantly post the same talking points.

le wild rage comic appears.