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    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Yeah I should have read it before commenting on it. My bad.

    EDIT: Thinking further on this, wouldn't the only spells effected by this be Drain and Aspir? Possibly the initial Damage of Bio. Has anyone noticed a decreased duration of sleep/bind gravity when AoE'd?
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    Last edited by Raksha; 07-30-2011 at 06:04 AM.

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    I'm amazed they're actually considering Manifestation for Elemental Magic, I always figured there was a very good reason why they didn't do it. Kind of begs the question why are they making Merton Dark Magic when we'll be able to Manifestation Elemental.

    I'm going to have to try Immanence + Manifestation nukes when (if) they actually do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    Yeah I should have read it before commenting on it. My bad.

    EDIT: Thinking further on this, wouldn't the only spells effected by this be Drain and Aspir? Possibly the initial Damage of Bio. Has anyone noticed a decreased duration of sleep/bind gravity when AoE'd?
    In 4 years never. My guess is it's mistranslated or poorly worded, and was thinking it was supposed to mean what you said Raksha. I'm responding to that thread and will put it in there. A lot of those responses don't make sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    I'm amazed they're actually considering Manifestation for Elemental Magic, I always figured there was a very good reason why they didn't do it. Kind of begs the question why are they making Merton Dark Magic when we'll be able to Manifestation Elemental.

    I'm going to have to try Immanence + Manifestation nukes when (if) they actually do this.
    Haha that would rock. Sadly so much of what I've enjoyed on SCH the past year is stuff that just looks or sounds cool but doesn't have any real use to a group. But, that disappointment might just be alleviated for a week or so if they let me create 10 fusion animations at once!
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    Raksha, you were just commenting on what it should have said. I went back and looked at the original JP post by Mocchi and I think the English has a translation error. It should say, "but the effects of spells that are turned into AoE by Manifestation are not weakened, so adjustments to maintain [that] balance would also be necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaraixx View Post
    Raksha, you were just commenting on what it should have said. I went back and looked at the original JP post by Mocchi and I think the English has a translation error. It should say, "but the effects of spells that are turned into AoE by Manifestation are not weakened, so adjustments to maintain [that] balance would also be necessary.

    lol that does make a lot more sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaraixx View Post
    Raksha, you were just commenting on what it should have said. I went back and looked at the original JP post by Mocchi and I think the English has a translation error. It should say, "but the effects of spells that are turned into AoE by Manifestation are not weakened, so adjustments to maintain [that] balance would also be necessary.
    lol thanks for doing that, I feel better now.
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    Third and final part of the SCH notes were posted by Mocchi. I assume the English translation will be up later this afternoon. I have to run to a meeting, but I just had to post and say that I was a bit disappointed. It was more so with the questions than the answers. No mention of storm spells, helices, Aldoquium or the Animus spells.

    The first question was asking for Cure V and the answer wasn't yes or no. They did say that there are thinking about a way to improve our support ability that is different from WHM. It could be stronger Regen effects, but they aren't sure. Mocchi did point out that it does not mean that they will not add Cure V later. For now they are looking at different adjustments and if after testing those they decide to add a higher tier cure spell they will.

    Someone also asked for spells to lower a mob's TP and evasion. There are plans to add a higher tier Gravity spell but I have to assume that will be RDM exclusive. They are also examining magic subtle blow effect. (I don't know if that means magic to grant subtle blow [but we already have Auspice] or a way to lower TP given by magic spells.)

    There were also requests for Reraise working with Accession, but they said that would require a lot of testing. There is also something about a magic crit spell and a request for a spell to make monsters to be intimidated {could be a mistranslation on my part. I'm not sure what ひるむ means in this context} by a PC's pet . . . Um, seriously?? The response was that would be an adjustment not for SCH but for pet jobs themselves. DUH!

    All in all, not that much to be excited about. Part 1 left me with a bit of hope. Part 2 was ok and Part 3 is a bit disappointing. Let's hope something was lost in my translation and that better notes await!
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    You got 3 replies to Scholar where most jobs got 0. I wouldn't worry, looks like Scholar has resumed its throne as one of SE"s favorite jobs.
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    Only numbers will tell that. Everything mentioned in posts 1 and 2 could be great or turn into the 75-90 problem of all hype and no substance.

    Thanks again Sasaraixx. I agree it's the requests they're picking again that are disappointing, as well as the responses this time. Storms, animus, adloquium, helices seem like given topics for a dev post on spells and it turns out to focus on Cure V, Reraise and a spell to make a mob intimidated by pets? lol
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    Last edited by Merton9999; 08-02-2011 at 01:06 AM.

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