Are alternative payment options being considered?

[Rosina]

This isn't the first time SE had to deal with this.

when ffxiv went live similar outburst happen. Then subsided after people figued stuff out.

So far my b/f signed up for C&B and had no issues. And he is of the mind set that if C&B does do something he can just cancle the credit card. Not the first time he did so. (long story)

Also SE does not regulate what country has what services. They can offer, but it is up to the region to take up said offer. Like not all countries have crysta. That is the fault of the contries.

Also the Crysta tin foil hat thinking is really getting outa hand. Learn how to take advantage of said system instead of moaning the "i'm forced to pay more to keep up crysta while having extra crysta I can't use" Kinda dumb sorry. You need crysta in your pot to purchase additional services such as extra content ID for characters.

If they do get more options, do not think it was you guys who caused the change, it woulda been a combination of both ffxi and ffxiv player bases.

[RAIST]

This isn't the first time SE had to deal with this.

when ffxiv went live similar outburst happen. Then subsided after people figued stuff out.

So far my b/f signed up for C&B and had no issues. And he is of the mind set that if C&B does do something he can just cancle the credit card. Not the first time he did so. (long story)

Also SE does not regulate what country has what services. They can offer, but it is up to the region to take up said offer. Like not all countries have crysta. That is the fault of the contries.

Also the Crysta tin foil hat thinking is really getting outa hand. Learn how to take advantage of said system instead of moaning the "i'm forced to pay more to keep up crysta while having extra crysta I can't use" Kinda dumb sorry. You need crysta in your pot to purchase additional services such as extra content ID for characters.

If they do get more options, do not think it was you guys who caused the change, it woulda been a combination of both ffxi and ffxiv player bases.

wait... did I miss something? Has FFXIV secretely gone pay-to-play and now people will be billed for it through C&B or spend crysta to play it?

Again with you completely ignoring the math. I've already explained to you how you can verify the potential waste in the crysta system. Apparently you either didn't look into it, or you just can't see/understand the numbers you are looking at. Guess a 5 month sample wasn't good enough to show it to you. Maybe I need to put up an even bigger visual for you than I did the last time to grasp how out of whack it is. So... I'll do it for you in case you couldn't/wouldn't follow the simple instructions from that other thread:

Cumulative totals required to maintain a single FFXI account:

FFXIFees - $5 Crysta - $10 Crysta - $20 Crysta - $40 Crysta
12.95 ------ 15.00 ------20.00 ------ 20.00 ------ 40.00
25.90 ------ 30.00 ------40.00 ------ 40.00
38.85 ------ 40.00
51.80 ------ 55.00 ------ 60.00 ------ 60.00 ------ 80.00
64.75 ------ 65.00 ------ 70.00 ------ 80.00
77.70 ------ 80.00 ------ 80.00
90.65 ----- 100.00 ----- 100.00 ----- 100.00 ----- 120.00
103.60 ---- 105.00 ----- 110.00 ----- 120.00
116.55 ---- 120.00 ----- 120.00 ----- 120.00
129.50 ---- 130.00 ----- 130.00 ----- 140.00 ----- 160.00
142.45 ---- 145.00 ----- 150.00 ----- 160.00
155.40 ---- 160.00 ----- 160.00 ----- 160.00
168.35 ---- 170.00 ----- 170.00 ----- 180.00 ----- 200.00
181.30 ---- 185.00 ----- 190.00 ----- 180.00
194.25 ---- 195.00 ----- 200.00 ----- 200.00
207.20 ---- 210.00 ----- 210.00 ----- 220.00 ----- 240.00
220.15 ---- 225.00 ----- 230.00 ----- 240.00
233.10 ---- 235.00 ----- 240.00
246.05 ---- 250.00 ----- 250.00 ----- 260.00 ----- 280.00
259.00 ---- 260.00 ----- 260.00
271.95 ---- 275.00 ----- 280.00 ----- 280.00
284.90 ---- 285.00 ----- 290.00 ----- 300.00 ----- 320.00
297.85 ---- 300.00 ----- 300.00
310.80 ---- 315.00
323.75 ---- 325.00
336.70 ---- 340.00 ----- screw calculating out the rest
349.65 ---- 350.00 ----- if you REALLY want to see how
362.60 ---- 365.00 ----- it works out for the rest of these
375.55 ---- 380.00 ----- you see the pattern and you can
388.50 ---- 390.00 ----- do it on a calculator yourself
401.45 ---- 405.00
414.40 ---- 415.00
427.35 ---- 430.00
440.30 ---- 445.00
453.25 ---- 455.00
466.20 ---- 470.00 ----- But...I will give you the final values
479.15 ---- 480.00 ----- at the end of this once I finally
492.10 ---- 500.00 ----- hit the point where the fees
505.05 ---- 510.00 ----- actually catch up to the crysta
518.00 ---- 520.00 ----- you will have purchased
530.95 ---- 535.00
543.90 ---- 545.00
556.85 ---- 560.00
569.80 ---- 570.00
582.75 ---- 590.00
595.70 ---- 600.00
608.65 ---- 610.00
621.60 ---- 625.00
634.55 ---- 635.00
647.50 ---- 650.00
660.45 ---- 665.00 ----- yes...that's right! you are still
673.40 ---- 675.00 ----- prepaying MORE than you are
686.35 ---- 690.00 ----- contractually obligated to
699.30 ---- 700.00 ----- pay SE to continue playing
712.25 ---- 715.00 ----- even after over 50 payment
725.20 ---- 730.00 ----- cycles--this is over 4 years
738.15 ---- 740.00 ----- and you STILL havent balanced!!
751.11 ---- 755.00
764.05 ---- 765.00
777.00 ---- 780.00
789.95 ---- 790.00
802.90 ---- 805.00
815.85 ---- 820.00
828.80 ---- 830.00
841.75 ---- 845.00
854.70 ---- 855.00
867.65 ---- 870.00
880.60 ---- 885.00
893.55 ---- 895.00
906.50 ---- 910.00
919.45 ---- 920.00
932.40 ---- 935.00
945.35 ---- 950.00 ----- 6 YEARS!!!! wait....
958.30 ---- 960.00 ----- WTF??!!! It still
971.25 ---- 975.00 ----- hasn't balanced out??!!
984.20 ---- 985.00
997.15 ---- 1000
1010.10 ---- 1015
1023.05 ---- 1025
1036.00 ---- 1040
1048.95 ---- 1050
1061.90 ---- 1065
1074.85 ---- 1075
1087.80 ---- 1090
1100.75 ---- 1105
1113.70 ---- 1115 ----- oh for the love of....
1126.65 ---- 1130 ----- over 7 YEARS???!!!
1139.60 ---- 1140 ----- !@#$!@$!@#$@!#$!@%$!@$
1152.55 ---- 1155
1165.50 ---- 1170
1178.45 ---- 1180
1191.40 ---- 1195
1204.35 ---- 1205
1217.30 ---- 1220
1230.25 ---- 1235
1243.20 ---- 1245
1256.15 ---- 1260
1269.10 ---- 1270
1282.05 ---- 1285
1295.00 -- 1295.00 ---- 1300.00 ---- 1300.00 --- 1320.00
FFXI fees - $5 Crysta - $10 Crysta - $20 Crysta - $40 Crysta

DING DING DING DING!!! WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!!!

FINALLY after 100 billing cycles (over 8 yrs.) it finally gets to the point where we can actually have paid EXACTLY what we were charged.

Wait.. wut? the $10, $20, and $40 buyers still overpaid?

SUCKERS!!!!!!!!

Now... do you finally grasp the concept?

Or do we need to call A-Pimp-Named-Slickback?