Petition: clickandbuy the only way no,thanks.

[Ilax]

@Karbuncle, No one really know why SE make this change, all we know is they drop playonline as 3rd party billing system, instead they choose C&B, of course imo it was a bad choice, they could have choose Paypal instead, but maybe in japan/Eu etc C&B was more popular and the market is probably bigger over there, no matter the reason SE choose C&B as partner for they billing system, that don't mean in future SE wont add more option like PayPal. Just keep in mind back before when it was Playonline only, SE had no alternative for anyone that had NO CREDIT CARD, and that imo WAS A BIG INCOME fail for SE, just think about how much money they lost every month.

For the ban, i doubt you get ban because you have not enough crysta lol that would be totally ignorant from them, so imo the only thing that goign to happen is your account be deactivate like when your credit card expire, and you just need reload crysta and reactivate it, that take 5 min...

[Hyden]

So... anyone know what Paypal error 10417 is?... I can't even throw money at SE anymore... Never EVER had any issues with POL... just sayin

[Finuve]

dear SE, give us this, and all anger will end immediately

http://common.allakhazam.com/images/...70db4c5609.jpg

[Aver]

dear SE, give us this, and all anger will end immediately

http://common.allakhazam.com/images/...70db4c5609.jpg

Finally, some sense!

[Octaviane]

Would all be a bit more comforting if it wasn't already shown the JP Can buy exact Crysta and can still pay directly via Credit Card(Was it confirmed?)... Yah yah Minorities get shafted etc.

Either way, I talked to my brother (who actually is in charge of our SqEx Account), and he says he's easily set up ClickandBuy before... Hopefully he's this lucky for FFXI.

Moving on, rather is so much easier to drive to a store and get a Gamercard itself is irrelevant if you ask me, People are complaining because after 7 years of the same method. a method the massive majority of us have grown comfortable with and accepted, They're changing the system and forcing us to chose between a shady company, or overpaying a small bit per month (which eventually adds up to a free month with some change left over, assuming you don't get banned or are forced to quit early for whatever reason, like life? then you can just donate it! small comfort for people on tight budgets)

It was simply an unnecessary move on SE's part, and while I don't feel "THE SKY IS FALLING", i actually support those quitting. If they had kept the old method but added these two no one would be complaining, no one, its the mandatory shift and obvious (if you're not naive) reasoning/choices behind the two chosen methods.

Agreed, and I would like to see it confirmed that the JP playerbase can buy Crysta in exact amounts and/or continue to use their CC's. Can't flame them until it's confirmed.

I am hoping that SE is sitting down as we speak and taking note of this and other threads on the subject and realizing that they are making a huge mistake. Hope springs eternal,but I am not holding my breath for too long..........

[Kraggy]

So... anyone know what Paypal error 10417 is?.

Paypal does: https://cms.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/?c...nvp_errorcodes

[Byrth]

Agreed, and I would like to see it confirmed that the JP playerbase can buy Crysta in exact amounts and/or continue to use their CC's. Can't flame them until it's confirmed.

I am hoping that SE is sitting down as we speak and taking note of this and other threads on the subject and realizing that they are making a huge mistake. Hope springs eternal,but I am not holding my breath for too long..........

Check the picture linked above your post. Also, allegedly they can buy in exact amounts by going through WebMoney and just putting in exactly how much they want. Someone posted a work-around for NA players (involving a JP hotel somehow?) on the BG forums, I think.

[Enoah35]

I have a JP account and I use Webmoney as payment since they won't accept Credit Cards printed outside japan. I have been using this method since 2008 (or whenever the 3D secure card thing was). In web money section there are options to buy crysta using Web Money starting from 500 - 10k and at the bottom there is an option to use up all the points remaining in your web money account. I would think this is what people are saying about paying exact crysta amount. Setting up the exact fee in webmoney then asking Squareenix's payment site to withdraw all the remaining points.

I for one cannot do this since Webmoney itself won't accept foreign Credit Cards. So I have to rely on third party shop who sells web money currency ranging from 2k-10k. Since both of my accounts are japanese I have no alternative but to use this method. Similar to Ultimatepay? So yeah in a way they can control the exact fee if you live in japan or have access to japanese credit card. I can make a screen shot to show this if you wish.

[Vivik]

24 hours since this thread was started and not even a "hey, we are looking into it" from a mod. You wont be getting my money on August 1st. Stay classy SE.

[Octaviane]

To save scrolling the above......

10417
Transaction cannot complete.
The transaction cannot complete successfully. Instruct the customer to use an alternative payment method.
Instruct the customer that PayPal is unable to process the payment and redisplay alternative payment methods with which the customer can pay.