Confessions of a Leech

[Rosina]

I'm going to assume "Returning player" means you haven't done new content yet

I've done aby. Just not the void walker stuff. And I solo bastion. I do And when I did dominion or aby parties I actively played. And didn't go in till 80. I never leached and always left a party with a PL.

At first i didn't care till my skills suffered. I never got the hang of ninja because of PL. I tried to learn by reading, doing, training with my friends and simply couldn't keep up it up because of the stupid need of no risk easy mode. Same with healinbg. It took me time to get better at uaing what cure When.

Also you level itsn;t really importent it is are skill levels. Leeching makes you gimp and no gear can help ya. I rather get my skills in exp parties then rush to cap and then skill up. Skill up parties are so dull and mindless. Mindless playing bores me to tears. Your not real gamers/players if you do not actively play the game. So you have nothing praise worthly.

[Meyi]

I gotta second Leo here.

i played this game from ps2 launch day on and off.

Congratulations? I've played since NA release to computer.

I can tell you the horror stories of the ppl i ran into who you can tell leeched their way to level. I had tanks who got PL the hole time and didn't know how to tank.

Leeching's been around since the beginning of the game. Anyone who isn't striving to provide their best performance is leeching. This includes people who leveled the "legitimate" way back in 2004 who would wear god awful gear to parties and slow everyone's exp down. At least leeches today don't slow parties down and in fact the inverse is true; decent players speed the party up.

I had white mages who didn't know what several spells did they a normal whm would.

I didn't get Erase until level 70 because it was up to 500k back in the day. Raise III was also 1mil. Leveling slowly didn't really fix the issue of buying scrolls and certainly didn't make me a better White Mage. At least now in Abyssea I can wrack up delicious cruor in a relatively quick rate and exchange for gil in exchange for spells and armor I need.

I had blms who refused to slow down their nuking and say "just get a PL".

Let them die and they'll eventually figure it out.

i had over 40000 melee players go ape on mobs and die, then blame the actual decent tank.

all these people have leeched or got PL the whole time they played. There was no "risk" for them to learn their timing.

I really doubt that. I know a lot of fail people who were playing back in 2004 with me.

If anything really teaches you how to play this game, it's soloing. Go out and solo your skills up while playing with your job. Do crazy things. Go kill your character, it's okay! The important thing is to figure out your reaction to the stress of the environment and to find out what each job ability, weapon skill and spell does. Most of the decently skilled players have spent a lot of time attempting things solo.

Edit #2: I wanted to respond to both posts in one.

Nope i enjoy good players who know their classes and actively plays not, ego stroking leechers who would rather get high and rot their brains, then even learn their class via playing.

Er...? Although this is probably something against Square Enix guidelines, to which I apologize, "getting high" and "skill" are not correlated in this game. I know a lot of people who are skilled even while playing intoxicated, and I know a lot of people who wish they had a reason to blame for their sheer idiocy.

Simply put any real gamer learns by doing. Simple.

See soloing.

If you leechers are not willing to play go find a non leveling mmo. Such as DCUO or WoW. you fot those better. Don't ruin an mmo with your petty mind set. Sorry no offence just leechers are scum in my eyes.

Don't ever use the term 'no offense' as it's always a lie. If you really meant no offense then you wouldn't produce the offensive statement. It doesn't excuse you from saying rude comments or throwing pointless jabs. If you disagree with someone, then disagree. For the record I think it's incredibly stupid and hypocritical for you to wish for your ideas to be respected while bashing everyone else who disagrees with you.

Get over it. You're not talented just because you leveled slowly.

Edit: Is Rosina Starcade in disguise? O-o; Sure is obsessed with leeches "cheating"...

[Leonlionheart]

How to leech:
1: Buy 300~500 keys
2: Get perle/ Walmart+Dusk+Pink/ Teal for 78
3: Get 78 and wear it
4: Play legit to 90
5: Skill up your weapons
6: ffxiah.com forums -> look for a topic about correct gear under the corresponding job
7: play ffxi and enjoy not having to griiiiiiiiiiiiiind for 8 months before playing ACTUAL dynamic content

[Leonlionheart]

So you have nothing praise worthly.

I WILL PARSE YOU RIGHT NOW ON WAR

OR CURE PARSE YOU RIGHT NOW ON WHM

OR TANK PARSE YOU RIGHT NOW ON WAR W/ WHM

IT'S GOING DOWN

[Dragoy]

As far as I know and everyone I've ever spoken to about "botting" the term is used for/defined as using a script/program to automatically do a given task(s) for you, as you're using real people to get the exp that would not be "botting", while similar in the out come they are different due to the difference between a script/program and a human being.

You are absolutely correct. I might have been able to be more clear about that I was not saying they are the same thing that way, at all.
As I said, I was merely playing with the thought of leveling up a character while being away, and/or not actually playing the game, which is what using 'bots' can do and is one of their most used purpose in online-games.

While we're at it, in a sense, it could be compared to account sharing as well which enables a character to level up faster due to more players working on it but again, without the actual sharing part which is prohibited.


I'll say it again just to make sure it's clear: I'm not saying they are the same thing, but merely comparing the hows and whys as well as playing with the thoughts and how one could see them. ^^;

On that note, I can't say if the developers intended for this kind of 'leeching' to be possible in the first place (as I mentioned earlier, often games will require your character to perform certain actions, to be active, to be eligible for the rewards).
Then again, setting the minimum level required to enter Abyssea is basically asking for just that, so I would guess they think it's fine, and indeed intended.

I would not be surprised if they did restrict it somehow in the future, though it's probably quite unlikely.


Just some (more) thoughts~

[Bubeeky]

I can't say that I've ever gone into a pt with the intentions of leeching, but I really don't mind it....I've seen plenty of ppl even before when cap was 75 that sucked royally.

At least this way, we can get through the grind quicker and actually use the jobs and their spells and JA's for the content they're meant for...nothing's a bigger deterrent to me for leveling a job than the knowledge that it'll take months and months and tons of money/effort/stress, so...the way exp is now is such a blessing

[Seyrena]

Your not real gamers/players if you do not actively play the game. So you have nothing praise worthly.

My what?
Oh. You meant 'you're'.
Well, allow me to retort.
Your argument is invalid. By leeching, I actively play the game. I click the book and take the page. I have to use the keys on the chest as fast as mobs are killed. I am doing activities. When skilling up, I actively keep myself healed and safely away from other mobs. Those are activities too. I'm no less of a gamer, therefore, for leeching. Besides, there's only so far I'm willing to leech.

[Dauntless]

You should add to your list:

8) How many of the games storylines have you completed?

Better question would be how many have you completed pre-nerf.

[SNK]

I read this thread and then remembered I leveled BST to 75 pre-TOAU. You all suck.

[Panthera]

I read this thread and then remembered I leveled BST to 75 pre-TOAU. You all suck.

This the SNK that was on Unicorn for a bit? If so, I'd thought you'd put Dragoon as your Main Job.