Abyssea shouldn't be extended, honestly.

[Elexia]

This could have been said in the other thread just as easily without creating a new one mocking the old one. This is the kind of stupid childish thing that is spamming up these forums.

Pretty much this.

Also, I've played FFXI since 2002, I lived through "Old, Superior FFXI". I'm sorry but "new" FFXI is what will keep people playing and actually bring in more people. If Abyssea was such a bad system or "ruined XI", why did Dynamis get the Stagger system?

Why did Voidwatch?

Why will Limbus inevitably get it?

Why will Salvage no doubt get it?

It changed the game for the better because it gave the players absolutely 100% more control. Before you went to mock my topic basically, do realize if you actually read, I was referring to extending the story of it because while it is complete, so was Rank 1 - 10 and the Vanilla storyline and they closed some plot holes with the first 3 Add-ons.

Abyssea has a storyline, but it's really disjointed that we get the idea, but it has no "meat" as with these ones, the meat was getting gear.

[Sparthos]

I agree, though Einherjar's totally random Odin pools and non-existent rate on chamber abjurations made the event a crapshoot until recently when the abjurations from chambers was increased dramatically.

Also agree on ichor being abandoned as a silly move. Points are the best way to reward in a game if you're going to encourage 6-12 man play.

[Karbuncle]

I agree with Sparthos on his two posts as well, a nice middle ground that realistically rewards you for your effort would be fantastic.

[Malamasala]

I've been praising points since christ was born. Sadly SE never remembers to add items for all jobs.

Einherjar - I bought mythic item because everything else was crap. And I'm not even making the mythic.
Campaign - I'm using the AN for retrace scrolls.
Conquest - I'm using the CP for warp scrolls.

Is it so hard to add armors for all jobs, and not just focus on PLD, WAR, SAM, BLM? I admit I bought the Yigit set, but only used parts for hmp. That is how pointless the set was for non-BLMs. Imagine a WAR set with only hhp? That would surely go well... not!

I must admit playing Summoner was the dumbest thing I've ever done. Considering their armors consist of AF, JSE, Relic and Empyrean. That's it. You can find scraps and pieces elsewhere, while other jobs keep getting full armor sets at those places.

I wish SE, 2003, had put up a giant Neon sign saying "We won't be adding armors for Summoner. Please pick another job" so I could have avoided waiting 4 years on each new armor set.

I can only imagine the bliss of people who picked SE's favorite jobs and had items dropping everywhere for them. No wonder some people think the game ever was good.

[Dauntless]

I loathe the proc system. Seriously. We could be killing the mob but instead we're sitting here waiting for everyone to run in and do a WS and run out to get more TP. I sincerely hope it's not added into the new content.

[Aliekber]

I loathe the proc system. Seriously. We could be killing the mob but instead we're sitting here waiting for everyone to run in and do a WS and run out to get more TP. I sincerely hope it's not added into the new content.

I know, getting nothing but a crystal off of Kirin was the best!

[Dauntless]

I know, getting nothing but a crystal off of Kirin was the best!

Alternatively, we could just increase the drop rate without having to proc? Nah, that's just stupid!

[Catmato]

I know, getting nothing but a crystal off of Kirin was the best!

Almost as good as proccing blue and yellow on Turul and still just getting a wind ore!

[Karbuncle]

Alternatively, we could just increase the drop rate without having to proc? Nah, that's just stupid!

Can't make everyone happy :\, if you just made a mob with universal "proc" level drop rates the "Easy mode QQ" group would QQ higher, if you made NMs like old days with 4% Drop rates and nothing could help you except Placebo Hunter, it'd become Tedious Fantasy XI again.

The proc system Isn't really awful, it could use some refinements, but i think Voidwatch proc system works really well, You proc almost everything through the course of the natural fight if your group is any good. It doesn't need to be in everything i certainly agree.

I can't really speak neutrally for your side as I personally love the proc system, But i just understand theres two sides to the argument and we can hope the Dev doesn't overkill either one by 99

Almost as good as proccing blue and yellow on Turul and still just getting a wind ore!

mmm, I was under the impression Turul's Cap/Waist were near 100% with Blue... Hell i thought the cape was 100% >____>

I mean, If everyone had cape/waist already thats not really a fair comparison, Because you forced 2 items not to drop by simply having them all.

[Ravenmore]

Alternatively, we could just increase the drop rate without having to proc? Nah, that's just stupid!

Why then we're right back to zerg, kite or basic tank and spank. Just goes to show people don't care about the strat just kill the mob as fast as possible and get loot. With those 3 very basic strat you can kill everything in the game. None of those needs you to pay much attention to the fight if the mob doesn't absorb damage.