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  1. #1091
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Kingnobody
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Over 500 attack is with food?

    Lol.

    Einherjar T3 bosses, Odin, Gurfurlur and other ToAU kings, T4 ZNM, Kirin, Byakko, Any and All THF NMs, Neo Dynamis Neo NMs (the VT force pop ones), Arch Dynamis Bosses, Bahamutv2, Fomor HNM, Absolute Virtue, Pandemonium Warden, Everything in Voidwatch.
    Basically everything he has never fought and will never fight.


    If you do cap accuracy, which is possible on some of these, your pDif and cRatio will still be in the toilet.
    But for him to know what that is, it would mean he would have to do research, but he doesn't respect his jobs enough to do any research of them and what it means to be a damage dealer.
    Post your gear. If you want to call people Gimp Summoners, you better be prepared to prove that you're not.
    I seen his gear, it sucks. It won't do him any favors in posting it
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  2. #1092
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    Leonlionheart
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    WAR Lv 95
    Quote Originally Posted by TybudX View Post
    Yes, the maths were fail. They assumed things that made the situation highly in your favour, namely:

    Predator Claws = Ukko's. It's not, it's closer to Raging Rush from a competitive weapon, like Widowmaker.
    Accuracy is capped for both SMN and WAR.
    SMN is using /sam to gain the most it can from Haste buffs.
    SMN has equal melee damage per swing. LOL. Not only does this point ignore pDIF, it ignores the base damage of your weapon and stats. So much for The Kirin Lie™.
    WAR was not using any native JAs or traits. Seriously. No Berserk, no att or crit traits, no double attack, completely ignored base stats, etc.

    The comparison was literally a naked character with capped accuracy and pDIF using Ukon and Ukko's Fury as a WS vs. an impossible SMN getting ODD off it's staff and Predator Claws.

    Less.
    Than.
    Half.

    Exactly what are these miracle SMN buffs you think you are going to stack on yourself? The only super secret buff I can think of that is going to make SMN (and melee SMN) not suck is called Job Change. An issue you keep skirting... why do you show up on SMN when any other job that can do the things SMN can do (buffs, DD, healing) can do them better? You keep pretending that you haven't seen it asked.
    Quoted for truth.
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    Last edited by Leonlionheart; 06-27-2011 at 06:37 AM. Reason: Typo

  3. #1093
    Player Dart's Avatar
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    Limlight
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    jesus christ on a pogo stick, reading this is going to make my brain melt.
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    And the BG angry mathie continues his rant, this time demanding I prove that a SMN sitting on his butt doing nothing is more gimp than doing anything besides nothing. What do you think this is, post #75?
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  5. #1095
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Kingnobody
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    And the BG angry mathie continues his rant, this time demanding I prove that a SMN sitting on his butt doing nothing is more gimp than doing anything besides nothing. What do you think this is, post #75?
    Dude, put up or shut up. Preferably both.

    Also admit that you have no clue as how to do damage.

    Because that is all you have "proven" so far.

    Why do you think you are the greatest thing to happen to humanity since the big bang? Just go away, because you are not bringing anything to the conversation at all anymore, and everyone here is telling you about how much full of feces you are.
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  6. #1096
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Tahngarthor
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    Shiva
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    Over 500 attack is with food?
    If you can't break at least 600 attack with food, then you must be wearing some kind of attack - gear or your weapon isn't fully skilled.
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  7. #1097
    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Leonlionheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    If you can't break at least 600 attack with food, then you must be wearing some kind of attack - gear or your weapon isn't fully skilled.
    On SMN my attack is 390 with 321 skill.

    Obviously no melee gear, but what slots other than ring actually have attack for smn anyway

    inb4 fire staff
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  8. #1098
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    On SMN my attack is 390 with 321 skill.

    Obviously no melee gear, but what slots other than ring actually have attack for smn anyway

    inb4 fire staff
    Mine is 305 skill, 367 attack on SMN. 72 STR naked on SMN, but I don't have any STR+ gear for it.

    391 attack on WAR. But then again, I got the STR to back it up. 86 STR naked on WAR. I have +37 STR gear for WAR too. Bunch of Attack+ and Double Attack+ gear too.
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  9. #1099
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    On SMN my attack is 390 with 321 skill.

    Obviously no melee gear, but what slots other than ring actually have attack for smn anyway

    inb4 fire staff
    Still not capped yet due to horrendus 2h skillup rate; but 340 skill with merits and 406 attack with no +attack whatsoever.

    Base STR is 81 (merited)
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 06-27-2011 at 10:02 AM.

  10. #1100
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Still not capped yet due to horrendus 2h skillup rate; but 340 skill with merits and 406 attack with no +attack whatsoever.
    Bolded: Most actual DDs don't have staff skill merits.
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