Do Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean staves lack utility?

[Alhanelem]

Heavenly Stike was a typo broseph

That's one hell of a typo. "Heavenly strike" and "predator claws" barely share any letters in common. =\

Even still, we're talking about DoT, not kiting.

We're talking about everything a SMN can do. If a SMN gets in trouble, he can adapt and alter his strategy to survive. all a DRK can do is keep attacking.

[Leonlionheart]

That's one hell of a typo. "Heavenly strike" and "predator claws" barely share any letters in common. =\

I don't use predator claws on SMN personally, I'm geared for Heavenly Strike mab so that's where my head goes.

[Dallas]

Inside Abyssea I use Minkin so I don't HAVE to use convert at all. I can BP:R and BP:W without converting. Maybe adding a Mana Cede every now and then.

Inside Abyssea, I use 3x physical atma because I get 1500MP from Myrkr whenever I feel like it. I sub /WHM to get all those proc WS which I can use because I have TP. I also get Cure 4, which I use whenever I feel like it because I have MP flowing out my ears.

Sure, you could put away /RDM but you are still riding that MM Atma like it's paying for college. You can't possibly compete, so why do you try?

I don't use predator claws on SMN personally, I'm geared for Heavenly Strike mab so that's where my head goes.

2/3 of your potential damage does not benefit from MAB builds. ALL potential damage can benefit from a physical build. The gear is better too.

[Alhanelem]

Without using Dallas' language, you really don't need RDM or SCH sub, or Minikin to function just fine on SMN.

[Leonlionheart]

2/3 of your potential damage does not benefit from MAB builds. ALL potential damage can benefit from a physical build. The gear is better too.

I only got SMN to 90 for kicks and giggles, and never use it for any practical situations.

WAR, MNK, and BLU deal more damage, WHM and BLU heal better, and BLM and BLU nuke better than SMN.

Although if I find myself fighting against a worm, or something that needs kiting, I will consider bringing SMN out of the closet.

[Leonlionheart]

Without using Dallas' language, you really don't need RDM or SCH sub, or Minikin to function just fine on SMN.

Not every SMN has Hvergelmir.

[Alhanelem]

Not every SMN has Hvergelmir.

You don't really need that either, from an MP standpoint. SMN MP is easy to manage...

I only got SMN to 90 for kicks and giggles, and never use it for any practical situations.

Then you're in no position to comment on topics like this.

There isn't anything you can't kill with a few SMN in some way or another.

[Dallas]

Before Hvergelmir, there are a dozen acceptable staves to use with Spirit Taker. No, you won't be taking off all that perp gear anytime soon, but you will be self-sustaining. I recommend that 75 DMG, 2% haste staff. It's the highest damage/no work staff out there, as I recall.

The good/bad news is all SMN melee gear is suitable for all jobs. If you have a meleeing (anything non-traditional) you probably have the gear.

[Leonlionheart]

You don't really need that either, from an MP standpoint. SMN MP is easy to manage...

Then you're in no position to comment on topics like this.

There isn't anything you can't kill with a few SMN in some way or another.

I know everything about the job, and this is in general discussion not the SMN forums. Hell my BRD is 18 but I know how to play it, how does that change my position to comment?

You can kill stuff with a few SMN, yeah. Without procs. In twice the time than it would take for a MNK and WHM to do it.

[Alhanelem]

If your BRD is 18 you have no experience. Knowledge doesn't equate to skill or experience. (That being said, BRD is about the simplest job in the game...)

If you're not taking a job seriously, as you have suggested you aren't, then you shouldn't be participating in serious discussion on it.

In twice the time than it would take for a MNK and WHM to do it.

Good for them. I'm not a MNK or WHM, so I don't care.