[dev1009] HNM's

[Sparthos]

Because none of the 12-18 people you'll probably bring to a KSNM is going to bring an orb too.

And who doesn't have several hundred beastmen seals they could convert to kindreds for this?

You know that's besides the point right? It's just not about BB items moreso the idea that SE places such high value on items that are outdated or subject to being matched or outclassed by things that take a few days of effort.

What makes Kings so special other than the fact that at one time they were special mobs?

12-18 people for Ks99 is extremely ideal yet it doesn't matter. The rate on BB items is low for no reason other than "to preserve a trophy item". Funny BB is considered a trophy yet the Ninurta Sash (the best example) off AV was simply trounced via Twilight Belts 100% drop.

No problem there with annihilating the value of that item yet BB/King drops are special? Cmon.

[Alhanelem]

You know that's besides the point right? It's just not about BB items moreso the idea that SE places such high value on items that are outdated or subject to being matched or outclassed by things that take a few days of effort.

What makes Kings so special other than the fact that at one time they were special mobs?

12-18 people for Ks99 is extremely ideal yet it doesn't matter. The rate on BB items is low for no reason other than "to preserve a trophy item". Funny BB is considered a trophy yet the Ninurta Sash (the best example) off AV was simply trounced via Twilight Belts 100% drop.

No problem there with annihilating the value of that item yet BB/King drops are special? Cmon.

Am I msising something here? BB items hard to get? No, they're not.

[Sparthos]

Am I msising something here? BB items hard to get? No, they're not.

You're missing the part where more often than not it takes multiple runs of a Ks99 to get one BB item.

The part where nothing else in the Ks99 pool can be used to get help from others since the loot is obsolete.

The part where the NQ triggers put into the Ks99 pools are effectively useless (cept Fafnir) granted the drop rate on HQ triggers is terrible.

Oh and the part where SE makes things drop at a low rate simply for the sake of doing it.