Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Fiarlia]

#1, as Yuna would say, you're a bad liar. But since you're more socially acceptable to the player-base than I am, you'll probably get away with it.

#2, I've been waiting for a post like this...

You might as well say the creators of illegal software contribute more to the game...

You might as well say RMT does as well...

You might as well even say that griefers and cockblockers do the same...

I'm not sure how creating illegal software has to do with determining and discovering new gameplay strategies, allowing people to become better at the game. Nor what it has to do with doing math and figuring out formulas for how damage in the game is being calculated. Both of these things are done without the use of third party tools, and contributes greatly to the game, especially to those willing to read up on said formulas and strategies. And quite a number of these come from BG.

[Ilax]

Think you guy Derailed badly here.

[Starcade]

Those immature little window-lickers as you call them allow a company like SE to create content that you enjoy to play,

Stop.

Stop right there.

If they are necessary for the continuance of FFXI, I've made my position repeatedly clear -- FFXI does not deserve to survive. Because, at that point, they have the right to dictate terms to the rest of the player-base and to Square-Enix.

My enjoyment of the content would be heightened significantly if the player-base had one ounce of integrity between them.

same as those people that pick up your garbage every week in RL, allow you to not deal with it. Everyone they world, as far i know, there no obligation for you to invite them, and if you join an abyssea PT just because you too lazy to make your own, then sorry buddy but you have to deal with it.

There's always the option to tell the alliance to go blow and warp out. I've even gotten to the point that, faced with the option of paying one of these window-lickers not to cockblock or getting tossed out of my alliance, I got tossed.

No matter how many job 90 anyone have, i am never looking at this when we plan invite someone in my LS that is btw very successful, and while we at this, i also never invite people just because they have good gear, all this mean nothing to me.

Then you would be a rarity in this game. Frankly spoken...

For many people, their gear is their reputation.

As side note, just keep in mind that probably the main reason WoW is more popular and more successful, they don't close the door to anyone... (even the immature little window-lickers as you say)

ESPECIALLY the immature little window-lickers. I was watching a gaming group doing a WoW marathon, and the maturity level of most of the comments and of a lot of the in-game chat approximated that of a pre-school student.

[Starcade]

I'm not sure how creating illegal software has to do with determining and discovering new gameplay strategies, allowing people to become better at the game. Nor what it has to do with doing math and figuring out formulas for how damage in the game is being calculated. Both of these things are done without the use of third party tools, and contributes greatly to the game, especially to those willing to read up on said formulas and strategies. And quite a number of these come from BG.

Let me put it this way:

I used to have in my linkshell on another server (in fact, finding out about this guy is one of the reasons I left the server!) one of the most prominent in-game tacticians/theorists on the entire game.

Of course, he was on his second character, having been banned for the Salvage bans of January 22, 2009.

Point being: I don't give a flying rip about how much strategy you form if it's clear that, by your conduct, you have no business playing FFXI.

That would be like giving Michael Vick credit for being a great athlete, even though he's a dog-killing piece of scum who has no business in organized society.

[Cream_Soda]

That would be like giving Michael Vick credit for being a great athlete, even though he's a dog-killing piece of scum who has no business in organized society.

He's a great athlete. Being a bad person doesn't mean you're not good at what you do best.

[Ilax]

@Starcade i totally disagree your stereotype personality, to even add up is shocking that you generalize that much everything like the world should just be composed of perfect people (Hi Adolf Hitler doctrine) You might think the way you play the game is perfect enough to say such of thing, but how good are you versus Avesta? Is the next step to make my game more enjoyable to also have you kicked out of the game just because imo you not good enough to play my game? Seriously i am just shocked man, and i am sure more then only me are by such of rude comment.

[Starcade]

He's a great athlete. Being a bad person doesn't mean you're not good at what you do best.

Yes it does, especially when (and this is where it becomes on topic to FFXI) it means you have no business doing what you are good at doing best.

[Starcade]

Is the next step to make my game more enjoyable to also have you kicked out of the game just because imo you not good enough to play my game? Seriously i am just shocked man, and i am sure more then only me are by such of rude comment.

I don't think you want my answer to that question.

The answer to that question is an unequivocal YES -- the next step to make your game more enjoyable is to remove people like me from it (forcibly and with the GMs if necessary), because of my non-tolerance for what probably makes your gameplay enjoyable.

The only reason I play FFXI is to spit at the cheaters and force Square-Enix, when the time finally comes, to basically either enforce their ToS against things they've said they would have no tolerance for (but continually LIED about), or basically render them irrelevant in the face of effective mob rule.

[Greatguardian]

It's been dull having you banned from any forum of repute in the FFXI community. You're so delirious it's funny.

[Starcade]

It's been dull having you banned from any forum of repute in the FFXI community. You're so delirious it's funny.

Well, let's make no secret: This is about the only place I'm allowed to post -- because I hold the player-base (pretty much rank and file) with utter contempt.