ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please}- レリックとミシックの強化

[wish12oz]

I forget which side you're on again. Are you for relics/mythics getting a buff or against?

I'm on the "Stop making 50 million threads about it, and bumping this crap for 2 months, SE said they will fix it so have some patience and wait til 99" side. Which also means I don't care either way, just tired of the incessant whining and incorrect information in all of these threads. Whatever ends up being superior, if it is significant I will go get it, so it doesn't affect me.

I'm also on the side of "Only 5 empyreans are better then their mythic or relic counterparts, and only from a DPS standpoint, and their counterparts have uses as well, they just don't do more DPS" side of the argument, and think people are stupid to make blanket statements about how empyreans are overpowered and relics suck. Most relics and mythics are actually superior to or on par with the empyreans of the same type. There is only 5 which are just better, Great axe, H2H, Katana, Bow and Sword and their only superior if all you're looking at is DPS. And RNG is just terrible so it doesn't matter, and Sword is only better for weak mobs over Burt or Excal.

[Kiba]

Did you ever see that kid who whines for something in the store, and their parents tell them no and to stop whining, then they keep whining and whining and whining. I always wondered why their parent didn't just spank them and tell them to stop, and wished I could do it myself so they shut up.

If you're trying to give an analogy then the difference is the parent here is not even saying no and has not been saying anything for 2.5 months. And if you really don't care just ignore the threads and posts. Making a debate and argument in these forums is pointless. Whether right or wrong will not affect the outcome of what the development team decides. So if you do not support I as well as many would appreciate not going off topic on what the purpose of this thread was for.

[Vold]

I forget which side you're on again. Are you for relics/mythics getting a buff or against?

I'm on the side of please let it go already. It's clear they are caving to all the complaining to shut people up with the quick two changes they did last thing to burt/aegis with the last update. That is obviously going to continue with following updates. Mission accomplished. You've got them to act sooner than later. Can this thread DIE ALREADY? They said they are working on it. What more do people want? A first class ticket to Japan where you can supervise the damn work day in and out until it is completed?

"Hey, hey. No. Wait. I want to see better on that Excalibur. Try again. Or else I'll QUIT."


I'm very very pro making relics and mythics high above Empyreans for power....outside of Abyssea. The quests for those things are insane. They deserved far better since day 1 because they designed them around content instead of what they should have done, which was design content around them. That meant you did all of that work for essentially a gimp weapon that did not have the power to justify the amount of work required to obtain them. At the end of the day these weapons should run circles around Empyreans and eventually will. My problem with this whole relic business is that you people, self proclaimed experts of the game who look down on "noobs" like you're a somebody, completely and utterly failing hardcore with logic and understanding of what's going on with the ultimate weapons of this game, essentially turning into what you hate most, which is NOOBS. I I I. ME ME ME. NOW NOW NOW.

Have patience. Wait. In time, one day, once again, you'll be able to strut around with your relic weapon proclaiming #1. You will rejoice. The rest of us won't have to hear your whining anymore. We will rejoice. Everyone will win on this day. Life will go on. We will move on. Roses will fall from the heavens, and everyone will be at peace. Until that day, I speak for the masses when I say this: Take 5 for a breather. That's 5 months, not 5 minutes.

But we know already that isn't going to happen, now is it? People will feel compelled to remind SE just in case they FORGET, which they won't, about adjusting relic and mythics. And we're going to be doomed for the next 3 months with these threads by people who seriously believe SE is oblivious to the situation they created, as if it wasn't their intent from day 1 to give players something to do in a time where no big additions are planned post Abyssea and they need to buy time to check on it for who knows how long because they got like 3 people working on this game right now since everyone else is on FFXIV to try to save it. They can't and won't put down everything they are doing to give you stronger weapons. But they are working on it. Learn to have patience.

[Bumbeen]

Well I think it's already obvious they are adjusting them. They already did aegis and burtgang like you said. I think people are greatly overestimating the ease at which these adjustments can be made. They clearly want to do it right the first time so they aren't going back and changing it again later needlessly.

I personally am more interested in the quest to obtain relics, as I am afraid of finishing mine and then two weeks later having it be 10x easier to complete. They stated they aren't reducing the cost of alexandrite for mythics, I wish they would come out and say for sure one way or the other for relics as well.

[Kiba]

I'm on the side of please let it go already. It's clear they are caving to all the complaining to shut people up with the quick two changes they did last thing to burt/aegis with the last update. That is obviously going to continue with following updates. Mission accomplished. You've got them to act sooner than later. Can this thread DIE ALREADY? They said they are working on it. What more do people want? A first class ticket to Japan where you can supervise the damn work day in and out until it is completed?

But we know already that isn't going to happen, now is it? People will feel compelled to remind SE just in case they FORGET, which they won't, about adjusting relic and mythics. And we're going to be doomed for the next 3 months with these threads by people who seriously believe SE is oblivious to the situation they created, as if it wasn't their intent from day 1 to give players something to do in a time where no big additions are planned post Abyssea and they need to buy time to check on it for who knows how long because they got like 3 people working on this game right now since everyone else is on FFXIV to try to save it. They can't and won't put down everything they are doing to give you stronger weapons. But they are working on it. Learn to have patience.

At this point really there is no clear indicator that there is anything planned or being worked on. That is the problem. The only thing that was said was "we recognize the issue and have plan to make adjustments". But really....what are the plans and when will the plans become reality? That's where we stand right now. About aegis/burtgang updates the fact that that was done with no explanation if those were the only plans puts everyone concerned about this in a limbo.

I'd like to formally apologize to everyone who feels annoyed by complaints and continuous follow ups demanding attention, however please understand that is the only thing we can do. I still do not understand to this point why other threads complain and get attention and we can't. In fact for those cases there were multiple threads open as opposed to ever since this thread was open we have not opened another thread. If you look on the first post, it was a compilation to alleviate that purpose. Either way if you do not like this thread or post just ignore, no one is forcing people to read. That is what the community reps are supposed to do to bring to the development team's attention and it seems there has been a deterioration on efficiency of this job function in reviewing posts.

And talking about patience, if 2.5 months was not considered long I don't know what else to call as patience. In fact the issue was addressed long before to even account the patience factor into.

I as well as others concerned about this are not expecting the development to drop what they are doing to work on this, but really....is it so hard to keep players informed? Once again inquiring is the only thing we can do until we get the proper information that is not being shared about the plans for adjustments.

[Kimble]

Like I told you before, They said they were going to work on it. There is NOTHING to suggest they are no longer doing so.

You also need to realize that the next update, we will have 95 cap, which means new trials for Relic/Mythic and yes, Empys. They have a lot on their plate right now, and its all a balancing act. Whats the point of doing the relic/mythic part now, if lets say, they do something for empys at 95 that makes them "better" again.

Burtgang and Aegis were the easiest one to adjust, which is why it was most likely done first.

[Kiba]

Like I told you before, They said they were going to work on it. There is NOTHING to suggest they are no longer doing so.

You also need to realize that the next update, we will have 95 cap, which means new trials for Relic/Mythic and yes, Empys. They have a lot on their plate right now, and its all a balancing act. Whats the point of doing the relic/mythic part now, if lets say, they do something for empys at 95 that makes them "better" again.

Burtgang and Aegis were the easiest one to adjust, which is why it was most likely done first.

All are just assumptions and predictions. None that can be relied on until concrete information is presented. When balancing is done it makes more sense to make it noticable across levels:
lvl 85 emp relic mythic up since lvl 80 emps don't have ws's yet.
So that is no reason to postpone. Unless the next magian upgrade will be drastic like a complete weapon benefit revamp it is reasonable to expect balance applied from the current levels.

[Kimble]

Well, you guys crying that SE has gone back on their word and are no longer going to adjust relics is "All are just assumptions and predictions."

[Kiba]

Well, you guys crying that SE has gone back on their word and are no longer going to adjust relics is "All are just assumptions and predictions."

Complaining does not necessarily require crying or whining. But, yes with lack of response and keeping players informed it is indeed creating a doubt and loss of confidence in their word on making adjustments.

[Bumbeen]

Complaining does not necessarily require crying or whining. But, yes with lack of response and keeping players informed it is indeed creating a doubt and loss of confidence in their word on making adjustments.

Do you seriously think they would post here and say they are going to fix it, follow through by adjusting aegis and burtgang, and then just leave the rest as they are?

If you have a relic you've been playing for a while. This is still SE we're talking about...