ATTN: Developers - A Polite Request regarding Mythic Weapons

[Sayelle]

I don't know what dedication means for this game every since aby came out...

You spent 4 years on 1 item, I admire you, but I can tell you now relic and mythic are garbage ATM. Save your money on a KC or something.

Theoretically a Mythic Drg is the strongest DD in the game in terms of pure damage output, so I'd hardly call that garbage.

[Sama]

Theoretically a Mythic Drg is the strongest DD in the game in terms of pure damage output, so I'd hardly call that garbage.

I'm glad you still have hope with relic/mythic but I'm afraid this is not a good statement and here is an example for your comparison:

Ryunohige (Lv 90)

DMG: 125 Delay: 492
Augments "Jump" IV
"Drakesbane"
Aftermath (Incl. Wyvern):
Increases Acc./Atk.
Occasionally attacks twice

V.S.

Vougier's Contus (Lv89)

DMG: 122 Delay: 492 Attack +10
"Conserve TP" +6
Jump: Enhances "Double Attack" effect

Tell me if the mythic is still worth the time, money and the n00b's lol...

[Greatguardian]

That's not what you said.

Is the best weapon in the game worth all that crap? Subjective.

Is it garbage? No. It's the best weapon in the game.

[Sayelle]

It most certainly is if you want to be a top tier Drg, Vougier's Contus isn't even in the same Time Zone when it comes to offensive capability despite having similar Damage Ratings. I agree with Nitsuj that the difficulty of obtaining mythic weapons needs to be adjusted because there are some that are most certainly worth obtaining even now.

[Aliekber]

Saying Vougier's Contus is comparable to a 90 Ryunohige is like saying a Dissector is comparable to a Ridill.

[Glamdring]

yep! arguably mythic and or relic are still the ultimate for most jobs (although I'd rather have the 3 song harp than a Gjallerhorn). Are they they ultimate by as wide a margin? probably not. Are they worth obtaining? depends on the player quite frankly. Do you have the time, commitment AND THE OTHER BODIES willing to get this for you? Is your "to-do" list in the game sufficiently empty?

Empy trial weaps were-I think-a way for SE to make up for a mistake they made in the original design of the game. SE does not acknowledge that they make mistakes as a rule. However, even the most oblivious designer had to look at the requirements and say that requiring the entire effort of full alliances every 3 days without fail for almost 2 years simply so 1 player could walk away with an exceptional weapon could be used as a diagnostic criteria for insanity. Hence, trial weapons. They still required grinding, but outside of the NM ones most could be completed in a month or less by the average player, if they were disciplined about it. They approach-but do not surpass-the quality of the comparable level relic/mythic-for the most part, some of the relic/mythic was never that exceptional.

Just as there always were other weaps that approached-but didn't surpass-relic/mythic when the game was capped at 75. There's a reason so few Guttlers were ever made, Juggernaut got the job done just fine, and it was also a pain to get. They did say that mythic would be made more atainable, like relic supposedly is (although the consensus I've seen is that making relic obtainable was another SE fail, it ain't more obtainable). So it's up to you.

[Leonlionheart]

I'm glad you still have hope with relic/mythic but I'm afraid this is not a good statement and here is an example for your comparison:

Ryunohige (Lv 90)

DMG: 125 Delay: 492
Augments "Jump" IV
"Drakesbane"
Aftermath (Incl. Wyvern):
Increases Acc./Atk.
Occasionally attacks twice

V.S.

Vougier's Contus (Lv89)

DMG: 122 Delay: 492 Attack +10
"Conserve TP" +6
Jump: Enhances "Double Attack" effect

Tell me if the mythic is still worth the time, money and the n00b's lol...

Seriously?

Ryunohige is so far ahead of contus it's unbelievable.

As far as most powerful weapons go, let me show you the top 3:

Ukonvasara > Ryunohige > Verethragna

And there's math to support that too. Ryunohige might even pull ahead now that the crit dmg cap is over 50%.

Also, Yagrush is still king for WHMs when paired with surya's. Nirvana is still the king of all SMN's dreams too. Relics however, SUCK.

[Rezeak]

Honestly i'm kinda agianst the relic/mythic content but it's there and i don't think peoples effort should of been cheapened now it's there

For alexandrite it should be made easy to obtain Alexandrite now less people do it.

Honestly I really wish SE removed/reduced to 3k the Alexandrite protion of the the mythic when they added it and just made it 1 mythic per char so that they reflected a players favirote job/specialization but thats just me.

[Atomic_Skull]

yep! arguably mythic and or relic are still the ultimate for most jobs

You mean for a *few* jobs. Emps are the ultimate for most jobs.

[Glamdring]

You mean for a *few* jobs. Emps are the ultimate for most jobs.

no, I actually meant "most". Emps are good, potentially very good. But the level 90 mythics trump most of the level 90 empys in my opinion; there are simply so many boosts stacked on most of them that even the 90 empys can't compete, although they can approach them.

The reason Empys get the nod is because they are easier to obtain, not that they are better. The beef of relic/mythic holders is that alot of work was done to upgrade it to the lvl 75 augments. Now they have to work hard again to get it to 80, 85, and 90 and once they do get to the current top tier the superiority of their weapon is not as wide compared to some of the 90 empy weaps. They still rock for the most part.

the level 90 relic are also excellent pieces for the most part, but the general consensus on most of them was that the fully upgraded mythic was better for most jobs (and the only option for some) for that quality. The obvious exception is Gjallerhorn, boosting a bard's songs is more important than boosting our combat skills, etc.