Raise the Minimum Requirement for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75

[Romanova]

World of Warcraft is a hugely successful MMO that doesn't allow for players to skyrocket through to endgame. And you don't hear the WoW player base come out and complain about why/how/when they can just be given a Max Lv character without any work involved.

Don't you dare ever comment on WoW and what complaining their players do until you've spent at least a good month on their forums.


It's the only thing that gets me to still post on these forums, because this stuff is nothing compared to the bitching that goes on over there.

[Ravenmore]

Almost everything you do in WoW nets you exp, quest, missions, raids all give exp.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Not to mention gold from quests is actually relevant compared to FFXI's gil rewards.

[RaenRyong]

If implementing ridiculously simple and and lazy ways to LvUp was SE's intent to begin with, doing so may have increased the population of FFXI slightly for the time being, but it's not to be considered a smashing success as many of you make it out to be. Allowing and encouraging hardcore leeching is not the answer to keep the interests of many gamers out there, and it takes the focus away from what actually makes a good MMORPG: Fun, Dynamic and Challenging Gameplay.

But the fun, dynamic and challenging gameplay is all found at level cap. By removing the grind to get to level cap, they are actually putting the focus more ON those things.

[Akujima]

Don't you dare ever comment on WoW and what complaining their players do until you've spent at least a good month on their forums.

Then direct me to a post, where WoW players are asking that they should go from Lv20 to Lv85 in less than a single days worth of gameplay.

[Romanova]

Almost everything you do in WoW nets you exp, quest, missions, raids all give exp.

yep and as I said before past 15 you never need to leave the city again.

yet they constantly complain over there.

Also let's not forget if you role a death knight you're automatically lvl 55.

[Kindra]

All this boils down to you want XP the old way? And by old way that is dependent on when you played and how you liked to set up the party, because this changed a lot over the years. One thing that people seem to be missing here is that this is an opinion. Not everyone will agree. Some like it the way it is now some like it the way it was when they first started and some just like it both ways.

No matter how much you try to argue this it still boils down to an Opinion of what you would like more. An old saying that I like to use in this type of thing is "To each their own.". People will do what they want and what you have to say about it really doesn't matter to them. They will do it anyway.

Have fun guys cause in the end this is what matters and how you choose to have that fun it totally up to you in the end.

[Romanova]

Then direct me to a post, where WoW players are asking that they should go from Lv20 to Lv85 in less than a single days worth of gameplay.

Not until you actually learn a thing or two about WoW before spouting comments about it...85...lol

[Akujima]

But the fun, dynamic and challenging gameplay is all found at level cap. By removing the grind to get to level cap, they are actually putting the focus more ON those things.

Oh I'm sorry let me correct that last sentence then.

A Variety of Fun, Dynamic and Challenging Gameplay.

FFXI (especially Pre-Abyssea) is Fun to LvUp in. EXP PT's can pick from 6/20 jobs, all that interact differently with eachother. Everyone out there complaining of "grinding all the time" is definately playing the game too much and a needed break/reality check, would do everyone some good.

[Akujima]

Not until you actually learn a thing or two about WoW before spouting comments about it...85...lol

Sorry I haven't played WoW since Burning Crusade and I heard somewhere the new LvCap is 85. If not then it should still be 80.