Our solo in abyssea is over~

[Judge]

Old school bsts had crappy selection of pets, you guys have it easy.

ive been playing 8 years~ lol I've dealt with the CC monopoly. laughed at the HQ pets added that offered nothing but a lower budget on the next set of pets to buy. I've leveled preTOA with exp penalties.

my point was that anyone who knows how to PLAY beastmaster wont be slowed down by this patch. ppl will still find a reason to dislike BST sharing a zone with them. i myself wont be saddened by this. i will continue finding ways to deal with my NM's.. even if it means buying a more expensive pet.

[Xilk]

Evasion caps same as PDT will, once they fix this exploit though evasion tanking will be the next avenue yes. Be thankful to Square they gave you such an awesome pet to fall back on. Old school bsts had crappy selection of pets, you guys have it easy.

wow, you trying to play that card? You think there are no "old school" bst here?

[Runespider]

wow, you trying to play that card? You think there are no "old school" bst here?

There are some, but not many. Most are noobs that tacked onto bst cause of a broken mechanic and you know it.

Also for people with sour grapes over this and thinking to take it out on the playerbase at large, if you become a problem you will be treated as such. It's very very easy counter any kind of tactics you care to mention to grief.

[Xilk]

There are some, but not many. Most are noobs that tacked onto bst cause of a broken mechanic and you know it.

Also for people with sour grapes over this and thinking to take it out on the playerbase at large, if you become a problem you will be treated as such. It's very very easy counter any kind of tactics you care to mention to grief.

I don't know it. neither do you. You do a survey? Its your opinion based off who knows what assumptions.

I have noticed alot more bst after scars, but it was never clear to me if they were new bst, or old players breaking the job out again. i saw alot of old players break the job out around the time scars came out, or a bit before.

I assume you are responding to some other players about 'giving grief'
I would not condone such a thing and I certainly wouldn't waste my time harassing another player. I don't find that sort of thing amusing in the least. I wouldn't waste my time on it either.

I don't think anyone suggesting a nerf to other jobs is serious. It is merely a comparison to make a point. Plenty of the features in abyssea are very comparable to 100% pet damage reduction. Many have a much larger impact.

[Reauland]

Well I for one plan on takin whatever dings the nerf hammer has to offer with a smile.

All it tells me is that they know we're dangerous.

By the same token though, might we suggest that Nin/Dnc and Dnc/Nin are overpowered too? I defy anyone to tell me they solo an NM any faster than Bsts do, and that's entirely without one of our signature abilities(Charm). I'd like to see how effective other soloists would be were they in our shoes.

Maybe this'll be huge. Maybe it'll be nothing. Whatever happens, we'll find a way.

It's what we do.

[Pikel]

Soloing with a pet that takes 0 physical damage is more broken than a melee in a party with 80% haste. Pets will probably still be able to get 87.5% damage reduction. It's not the end of the fucking world.

I like this. It's the general consensus of people that feel we were broken and don't understand beast at all.

I solo'd bst to 75 before Abyssea because I enjoyed relaxing without drama and not relying on other's for things. I'm sure this patch won't effect us as much as some may think. The reason behind their crying was we could solo nm's taking 0 damage and hold nm's forever. Guess what? We've been solo'in for years. We can hold mobs forever one way or another. It might require some merit changes. Might require eta food instead of zeta. Might require more pet swaps. Either way we will still have a fairly high amount of defensive gear / atmas for our pets even if they drop the pdt cap. All this does is make our solo'in just a tad longer.

Congratulations you got your patch. I'm still gonna solo. Now you gotta wait longer. :P

[Runespider]

Congratulations you got your patch. I'm still gonna solo. Now you gotta wait longer. :P

For most, waiting was never the issue, just playing your job with a little more skill than an almost invincible pet allowed. Bst is an awesome job but noobs using it in this way was really sadening, good bsts will still get their kills, just with a little more ability and knowledge than abusing a broken mechanic.

[Pikel]

For most, waiting was never the issue, just playing your job with a little more skill than an almost invincible pet allowed.

My impression was waiting was most definitely the issue. Bst holding mobs for 40+ min trying to proc or having friends zomby nm's for wins. If your issue is a noobs ability to get away with success using atmas why single out bst? Abyssea has bread nothing but noobs from day one. I personally am saddened by the lack of skill almost any player has on at least one of their jobs. I did nm farming with a nin that was wearing AFv1 weilding AH katana's and only using utsumi. No spells to sneak around, no spells for yellow procs, no weapons for red procs, no skill to actually evade anything. Yet threw atmas (mostly auto reraise) he was successful at getting what he wanted.

So again if people were complaining because of lack of skills why single out bst?

[Aldersyde]

Pets will probably still be able to get 87.5% damage reduction. It's not the end of the fucking world.

If you don't mind indulging me, what's your reasoning for assuming that 87.5 will be the new cap? Because that's what they settled for smn's avatars? That's pretty faulty reasoning considering that avatars have native pdt- and most pets don't.

For the most part, SE does two types of adjustment to jobs: those that are completely ineffectual and those that totally annihilate former styles of play. I'm leaning towards total annihilation of pet pdt- cap.SE's treatment of the job hasn't prepared me for any better scenario.

[Khiinroye]

Because its been tested to be about that already.

All it took away was the ability for gimp bsts to throw a pet at some mob and afk for an hour, like nearly everyone expected and wanted.

Good bsts are mostly unaffected.