Raise the Minimum Requirement for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75

[Akujima]

.......I did have a slight advantage over the normal player by having a lvl 90 emp weapon but that still doesn't excuse the pitiful damage numbers I was seeing in the log.

LOL, omg hahaha...

So you're complaining about New Players that haven't been able to farm their butts off to get 90 Emp Weapons and AF3+2 yet. And instead of giving them advice, your answer is just to call them Noobs and use that as an excuse to why you should Leech to Lv30. Very nice.

[rog]

Nah, I checked wiki, you're legit.

I just added that to :safeface:

[Aliekber]

I just added that to :safeface:

Naturally.

Also, your LJ icon link was borked last week (appears to be fine now). You need to get unbanned on Alla (at least in /k/ ; again, at least until they get a PM function on these boards, so I can complain at you if it happens again.

[rog]

Naturally.

Also, your LJ icon link was borked last week (appears to be fine now). You need to get unbanned on Alla (at least in /k/ ; again, at least until they get a PM function on these boards, so I can complain at you if it happens again.

I am always on skype and aim, at GCKDBC826GTA7TTR. Alternatively if you send me a pm on alla with your email address, i will email you, so you can contact me through that. or you can always just pm me on alla. I can still recieve pms, i just cannot reply, so if you want a reply, you need to leave me a way to do so. You can also pm me through ffxiah. Really it is not hard to get ahold of me.

[Aliekber]

I am always on skype and aim, at GCKDBC826GTA7TTR. Alternatively if you send me a pm on alla with your email address, i will email you, so you can contact me through that. or you can always just pm me on alla. I can still recieve pms, i just cannot reply, so if you want a reply, you need to leave me a way to do so. You can also pm me through ffxiah. Really it is not hard to get ahold of me.

Gotcha. Thanks.

[Romanova]

Here's an amazing thought. You don't like leechers? Make your own pts and don't allow them. Simple as that.

I actually came back to the game about 3 months ago, previously when I played abyssea wasn't out yet, and the cap was still 75.

Anyone who complains about this is being ridiculous. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO HAVE LEECHERS. Also, abbysea pts go so insanely fast, they are not screwing up your xp in a way that you should complain. The fact you can even get more than one level a day is huge past 75 compared to the old ways.

And lol at old content is "dead". The only "dead" content are certain xp areas, and SE has already started reviving those areas with things like GoV, sky gear augments, etc. There are still tons of people who seek pts, and because of level sync there is nothing stopping you from making a party in the old areas.

Heck I've been doing that a lot lately, becuase I had no mage subjobs and decided I finally wanted to take rdm up. Not bothering to leech some jobs that only need to get to 45, and I rarely have to seek long before getting a regular pt.


Basically, this idea just takes away, and does nothing. No one is forcing you to leech, no one is forcing you to have them in your pt, no one is even forcing you to xp in abyssea at all.

[Sayelle]

Not this shit again. The subject has already be discussed to death in previous threads and thoroughly discredited. For Akujima and any of the other supporters of this tired idea please go read those threads and if you can come up with an argument that hasn't already been torn to shreds then we will gladly tear your new argument to shreds for you.

[Panthera]

You make the assumption that any half-decent level 90 DD+Mage combo can't full clear entire camps on their own. You don't need more than 5 people tops to make the absolute maximum EXP/hr available at any given camp, 3 of which are just going to be pulling nonstop.

If adding additional level 75+ adds absolutely nothing to the killspeed, adding additional level 30's subtracts absolutely nothing from the killspeed.

And you make the assumption that these heroes who can wipe out the entire zone single-handedly are dime a dozen, that every ally has two of them, and moreover, that such heroes exist. In my experience, most allies are just that, allies, a team effort of a dozen or more people working together to get the best EXP they can get. Some people have barely hit 75 and don't have much gear to speak of at all. Others were 75 before the level cap adjustments, and have some current gear here and there. Two guys wiping out the entire zone instantly when mobs pop? You exaggerate, sir.

Leeches are parasites, whether they are level 30 or level 90. That 30brd keyspammer? Leech. That level 90 NIN in full aurore gear who doesn't gear swap and puts out 500 damage Jins? Leech. If anything, the Keyspammer is more productive than the gimp-ass level 90 with absolute shit gear and atma. If an entire alliance is made up of Leeches, either level 30 or 90, of course the alliance is going to fail. If the alliance has even a single non-leech player, the amount of leeches there won't matter at all.

Obviously, those with the best gear and focus on task contribute the most damage, yet everyone benefits equally in experience points. But that does not mean that those who contribute less contribute nothing, which seems to be what you contend. An unequal symbiosis? I'll give you that, but calling a level 90 in full Aurora a leech is hyperbolic, just as hyperbolic as these mythical champions that everyone else just leeches off of. What bothers me are people who go AFK indefinately and nothing is done about it. That's leeching.

Old-way XPing vs. Abyssea leeching isn't climbing a mountain vs. taking an escalator to the top, as someone said on the previous page, it's more like carving your own snowboard out of fiberglass vs. buying one at the store. It doesn't matter how you got the snowboard (personal satisfaction notwithstanding--you can level however you want), what matters is what you do with it after you get it.

Why bother leeching? Just buy accounts with real money, play with the jobs until you get bored, and then take up buying pre-built model airplanes as a hobby. After all, the point of model airplanes is having model airplanes, right?

[Sparthos]

Here's an amazing thought. You don't like leechers? Make your own pts and don't allow them. Simple as that.

I actually came back to the game about 3 months ago, previously when I played abyssea wasn't out yet, and the cap was still 75.

Anyone who complains about this is being ridiculous. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO HAVE LEECHERS. Also, abbysea pts go so insanely fast, they are not screwing up your xp in a way that you should complain. The fact you can even get more than one level a day is huge past 75 compared to the old ways.

And lol at old content is "dead". The only "dead" content are certain xp areas, and SE has already started reviving those areas with things like GoV, sky gear augments, etc. There are still tons of people who seek pts, and because of level sync there is nothing stopping you from making a party in the old areas.

Heck I've been doing that a lot lately, becuase I had no mage subjobs and decided I finally wanted to take rdm up. Not bothering to leech some jobs that only need to get to 45, and I rarely have to seek long before getting a regular pt.


Basically, this idea just takes away, and does nothing. No one is forcing you to leech, no one is forcing you to have them in your pt, no one is even forcing you to xp in abyssea at all.

While you have points, the idea that you can simply ignore the fact that people are leeching and make your own EXP parties is a bit misleading.

A simple /sea all 30-75 during NA prime right now is pulling up 12 people across 45 levels LFP. Yeah, safe to say that PT wont be happening and you'll be soloing if you don't get the opportunity to leech.

You can't really close your eyes and pretend leeching hasn't basically killed off EXP the "old" way, regardless of how you feel about it. You either leech or you solo to 75 through FoV now. For anyone without the resources to leech to cap, you're stuck doing FoV/GoV - an epic grind alone.

[Panthera]

While you have points, the idea that you can simply ignore the fact that people are leeching and make your own EXP parties is a bit misleading.

A simple /sea all 30-75 during NA prime right now is pulling up 12 people across 45 levels LFP. Yeah, safe to say that PT wont be happening and you'll be soloing if you don't get the opportunity to leech.

You can't really close your eyes and pretend leeching hasn't basically killed off EXP the "old" way, regardless of how you feel about it. You either leech or you solo to 75 through FoV now. For anyone without the resources to leech to cap, you're stuck doing FoV/GoV - an epic grind alone.

No friends to static with, eh?