[DEV 1009] Kings update, drop rates.

[RaenRyong]

I post here like... twice a week at best now. Or a few times 1 night once a week. I don't get your personal grudge for me...

Pchan hates EVERYONE.

Popped kings are a great idea - botting and competing over claims is just artificial skill-less competition and should be eliminated.

... however, stupidly low drop rates are a terrible and boring way of sustaining gameplay (and how FFXI used to be)! Please change them. I don't want to sit through 20 KS99s on average just to get an MBody.

[wish12oz]

I thought I just did exactly that.

Chill out.

You ask, I said it's it's 5% and you doubted it, so I provided information to prove my prove my point. And I'm not angry at you or being hostile with you, just providing information to back up my claims.

Gotta love BG rejects doing statistics with 50 sample size. Also D ring is useless : Cure 6 etc. Anyone easily caps mdt/pdt if they want to.

Ya Pchan, a whole year's worth of statistics is terrible. I just posted that to go with what the wiki said and personal experience, if you have statistics that say something else please present them and argue against me, but I doubt you do, cause you never have anything useful to say. So take your full usukane, your earth resist build, and go back to brewing the dragua's you said were so easy and tried to make fun of people for brewing.

How about this, in the just over 2 and a half years I actively did HNMs, I can name all 8 D rings that dropped in that time frame. That's 2 and a half years worth of statics saying 5% drop rate, combined with that LS's posted rates, and combined with what wiki/alla/every other site says the drop rate is. Is that good enough? Or do you think it's worth arguing that the drop rate is not 5%?

I got an idea, how about you go to this thread here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ll=1#post54703
And answer the question I have ask you to answer 10 times now, that you refuse to answer because you know you're wrong.

Let's take one last look at something you said, you called me a BG reject. Implying that I am somehow rejected from BG. Last I checked, about an hour ago, I'm not banned from BG, and people don't respond to every post I make telling me how stupid I am, so I have not been rejected there, unlike you. So now, how exactly am I a BG reject?

It's useless because almost every job can cap pdt and mdt for one, and for two cure 6 removes the need of any defensive stat. This has nothing to do with doing math, just common sense. Now if we are back to killing stuff than can do 1k + while having 2K HP sure.. maybe.

Defending ring is the best piece in the game for MDT and PDT combined or separate.
You give up the least in the ring slot for it compared to anywhere else.
Most jobs cannot actually cap PDT without giving up their weapon slots.
You argue people should carry around 20 pieces of gear to reduce magic damage by 15% when you can reach 33% reduction with 4 pieces of gear, why are you saying this isn't worth it? I completely don't get your logic.
This update has tons of outside abyssea content, every other update from this point on will be that way too, saying stuff is only useful outside of abyssea is not a valid arguement.

Now stop ruining my thread with your off topic comments Pchan, no one likes you and no one cares what you have to say, just like on FFXIAH, BG, and everywhere else you try to throw your opinion around and provide nothing useful.

[GlobalVariable]

And I'm not angry at you or being hostile with you, just providing information to back up my claims.

It just looked like you thought the edit was a reply to you, it wasn't. Either way thank you for the info and linking that was indeed helpful.

[RaenRyong]

beautiful words

I'm afraid I'll be needing video evidence of each and every one of those D Ring drops and non-drops. When you show me the video, I will pretend it doesn't exist and start insulting you instead.

[rog]

It's weird because your profile shows an average of 17 post per days.

You must have missed the qualifier "now". My profile says 13.6 posts/day, and now i post around once a day on average. It says 13.6, because for the first few days the forums were up, i averaged 100+ posts per day, then after that i averaged 10-20 for a few weeks, after which i averaged 2-5, and currently post 0-3 times or so per day. That is how averages work. They do not necessarily reflect current trends at all.

[MarkovChain]

You argue people should carry around 20 pieces of gear to reduce magic damage by 15%

Where did I say that ? Carrying 20 pieces of gear for 15% reduction is idiotic especially with cure 6. I think I'm actually saying the opposite. While it's a nice item to have because well it *can* save space (sometimes, assuming you actually NEED mdt/pdt to achieve what you want). It's not useful because whenever you would need it you can use alternative gear and be exactly as much efficient or even more efficient. Its ONLY benefit is to save inventory.

Two situation can happen

99% of the fights where the mobs cannot harm you even with zero pdt gear => useless obviously. Mages have infinity MP, the MP saved over time argument doesn't work. Taking 90 instead of 100 damage doesn't make you better at anything.

1% of the fight were stacking pdt is useful which can be for instance supertanking which is a super rare situation and which can be generally done with basic earth staff & co. One situation I can think of is PW while holding the lamps. For anything else cure 6 spam. You asked for "easy game" now you have it.

Now if we are back to the old FFXI where optimizing matters why not. Although technically cure6 is more useful outside than inside abyssea. This item is nothing but a trophy and for a long time. It will become useful when they uncap pdt/mdt .. maybe. How likely are we going to have shell 6 ? More magical/physical damage taken - ? PLD is the job that takes the least damage wether from magical or physical sources. PLD is useless as every one knows. Why would Defending ring all of a sudden become useful ?

[wish12oz]

Where did I say that ? Carrying 20 pieces of gear for 15% reduction is idiotic especially with cure 6.

You said it repeatedly in the post I linked to in my last comment to you. And it's exactly what I was pointing out to you. With an MDT set you lose 4 spaces and take 33.5% of magic damage (according to you) and you were championing resistance gear at 20++++ spaces of inventory to take 15% of magic damage. Which is completely not useful IMO. MDT set only. And the less gear required to cap MDT the better IMO. D ring is amazing, it's best in slot, best out of all options available based on what you lose to equip it compared to other slots. People who think it's useless are really bad at this game, nothing more needs to be said about it.

PLD is useless as every one knows. Why would Defending ring all of a sudden become useful ?

Because the ring is not for PLD. It's for jobs that require PDT to tank effectively sometimes. Or for melees who pull hate and aren't trying to tank to avoid dieing.

Now if we are back to the old FFXI where optimizing matters

Everything you post everywhere is all about optimizing everything, why are you arguing against it for this and saying D ring is useless?

[Raksha]

Almost everything from kings is now obsolete, they said they are making a belt stronger than BB. You think they won't add a defending ring +1 anyway?

They'd have to add two, actually.

But back on topic: My LS went 1/8 on behemoth tongue, and 1/8 on KB pop item. We also went 1/10 on wyrm beard and 1/8 on nidhogg pops, with 0/8 ridills.

My LS has pretty much given up on ks99/kings for the time being until SE fixes it.

[SNK]

Gotta love BG rejects doing statistics with 50 sample size. Also D ring is useless : Cure 6 etc. Anyone easily caps mdt/pdt if they want to.

Still mad that you got banned I see.

[Atomic_Skull]

... however, stupidly low drop rates are a terrible and boring way of sustaining gameplay

Highly effective though as B.F. Skinner and countless scientists since then have proven. Infrequent random rewards are much more effective at maintaining a behavior than a frequent predictable reward.