Remove the 5 minute timer on the kindred seals drop

why do we have to wait 5min to get 1 seal the game gonna end soon at 99 so open up and dont be stingy

Defending rings for everyone. I agree with the OP. No reason to allow you a chance at shadow ring/mantle several times a day but to cokcblock you on D ring or ridill.

Or at least lower it to a 1 minute timer, would be acceptable.

1 emp weapon for every n00b plz~

Actually, imagine you in a party of 18 and only 1 would drop in 5 min that's by luck alone you will get one seal every 1.5 hour.

Welcome to FFXI~

<3Hordecore

Unlike my usual response to hordecore, I'm alright with this.

I love how people feed and encourage this guy. And yes, just by posting im doing this myself I realize this. I just hope SE finds out who's sock puppet or bs account this is and ban it and every account that person holds on the forums and FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Heady

I love how people feed and encourage this guy. And yes, just by posting im doing this myself I realize this. I just hope SE finds out who's sock puppet or bs account this is and ban it and every account that person holds on the forums and FFXI.

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Yeah, he is just a little too right, better ban him before any good changes come from his amazing suggestions.

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Yeah, he is just a little too right, better ban him before any good changes come from his amazing suggestions.

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Yes , because 1 decent idea (the seals) overrides ~50 nonsense space wasting threads.

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Originally Posted by Heady

Yes , because 1 decent idea (the seals) overrides ~50 nonsense space wasting threads.

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Well, this idea isn't really decent either, its just another complaint from him about why life isn't fair for him atm.

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Originally Posted by rog

Yeah, he is just a little too right, better ban him before any good changes come from his amazing suggestions.

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You people can ban one hardcore; but there are thousand hardcore to be risen.

Think about it, all of us are sometimes 'hardcore' too. Don't be selfish, he's got some point. It's just that you people think your threads makes more sense because your threads are simply longer.

I bet any of you finds something unfair you will post on this forum also so what makes someone should or should not be removed.

Besides, this is just another BS board; whatever hardcore says I bet SE don't even give a damn.

If you don't like it, just 'click the back' botton this ain't your website you don't own it.

Hordecore posts nothing but great ideas.

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Originally Posted by rog

Hordecore posts nothing but great ideas.

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See now that one was a bit too obvious.

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Originally Posted by Sama

1 emp weapon for every n00b plz~

Actually, imagine you in a party of 18 and only 1 would drop in 5 min that's by luck alone you will get one seal every 1.5 hour.

Welcome to FFXI~

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Correct me if i'm wrong but can't you get 3 seals every 5 mins in a 3 party alli.

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Originally Posted by Alaik

See now that one was a bit too obvious.

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It is true.

Thanx rog




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Originally Posted by Ravenmore

Correct me if i'm wrong but can't you get 3 seals every 5 mins in a 3 party alli.

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I apologize for the rough assumption that I made.

Therefore you will get 1 seal, by luck alone, in 30 min.

Welcome to FFXI~

Yes please remove it! Just because you guys hate hordecore doesn't make his ideas stupid.

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Originally Posted by Sama

I apologize for the rough assumption that I made.

Therefore you will get 1 seal, by luck alone, in 30 min.

Welcome to FFXI~

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I believe he was referring to making an alliance with 3 people (one in each of their own parties).

I think this is like the auto-response 1st post now to Hordecore. lol

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Originally Posted by Jalonis

Unlike my usual response to hordecore, I'm alright with this.

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He does get it right sometimes, but this would just end up as a bad fix to a terrible problem. It wouldn't actually fix the real problem (low drop rate for king pop items from their NQ version) but it would allow SE to think they fixed it if they implemented this. Unless the drop rate ends up being 1 per mob.

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Originally Posted by Sama

1 emp weapon for every n00b plz~

Actually, imagine you in a party of 18 and only 1 would drop in 5 min that's by luck alone you will get one seal every 1.5 hour.

Welcome to FFXI~

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That would dumb because you could just form 18 parties of 1 players all but one with invo full and get on average 18 seals (9 Kindred) per 5-10 minutes depending on your luck.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

That would dumb because you could just form 18 parties of 1 players all but one with invo full and get on average 18 seals (9 Kindred) per 5-10 minutes depending on your luck.

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That's call seal farming and... how often you do that? Just go out and solo EP for seal but nothing else, for real, would you do that???

It's possible and yes it's the best and fastest.

you are the one metionning farming in an alliance of 18.

oooo better yet remove ksnms and make all pop nm's lottery spawn every 3 hours with 120% drop rate!! XD

Howdy!

From a balance perspective, making any adjustments to the amount of seals dropped or removing time limitations would have to be dealt with extremely delicately, mainly due to the fact that these seals are used in certain quests as well as other battlefields. Any change to the amount in circulation would ultimately result in a reduction in item value. To avoid this, we are thinking about making it possible to exchange seals and will be looking into specific exchange rates and rules. We’ll be sure to keep you posted on any developments.

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Originally Posted by Camate

we are thinking about making it possible to exchange seals

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Yes, please! Where do I sign?

no, hell no, please no, God no, and in case you missed the 1st response... no.

seriously, tired of having game content spoon-fed to me and to other players. You didn't get my interest in a game for 9 years by making the total content soloable start to finish in 1 RL month. If BB is so important you should have to work for it, just like relic, mythic, those uber ZNM prizes, salvage gear and the like. dropping the rate to 1/60 seconds means that you'll get 2 cracks at it every 99 minutes, plus travel time. If you do a 1/minute rate, then drop the drop rate on items to something equivalent to Jaggedy-earred Jack and the rabbit charm, where I went 0/206 before I just gave up and bought one.

Honestly, BB was a reward for hard work when it was created. This game isn't a freaking welfare entitlement program!

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Originally Posted by Camate

Any change to the amount in circulation would ultimately result in a reduction in item value.

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The amount of seals in circulation already dropped since everyones does exp in abyssea now.

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

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Did you even read what Camate wrote? They're not going to decrease the drop times, but are considering letting you trade seals that you don't want for seals you do want. Considering it's much harder now than it used to be to get Kindred's Seals, this is a good thing. Hopefully it will mean the end of 600k Phalanx scrolls new RDM33 will have to buy.

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Originally Posted by Aliekber

Did you even read what Camate wrote? They're not going to decrease the drop times, but are considering letting you trade seals that you don't want for seals you do want. Considering it's much harder now than it used to be to get Kindred's Seals, this is a good thing. Hopefully it will mean the end of 600k Phalanx scrolls new RDM33 will have to buy.

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I absolutely read it... and again, no. People should have to work for something they seek. And the seals are not hard to get now... kill stuff>>get seals, how difficult was that? I've got empy weaps to make, an NPC to level, skills to skill, crafts that require farming and 15 jobs yet to take 1-99, seals I'll be getting aplenty.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Howdy!

From a balance perspective, making any adjustments to the amount of seals dropped or removing time limitations would have to be dealt with extremely delicately, mainly due to the fact that these seals are used in certain quests as well as other battlefields. Any change to the amount in circulation would ultimately result in a reduction in item value. To avoid this, we are thinking about making it possible to exchange seals and will be looking into specific exchange rates and rules. We’ll be sure to keep you posted on any developments.

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That will work =o

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

I absolutely read it... and again, no. People should have to work for something they seek. And the seals are not hard to get now... kill stuff>>get seals, how difficult was that? I've got empy weaps to make, an NPC to level, skills to skill, crafts that require farming and 15 jobs yet to take 1-99, seals I'll be getting aplenty.

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I really don't think you read the post...
How does trading seals that you worked for, for other seals (like trading battle trophies or imperial coins) mean that you wouldn't have to work for them anymore?

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

I absolutely read it... and again, no. People should have to work for something they seek. And the seals are not hard to get now... kill stuff>>get seals, how difficult was that? I've got empy weaps to make, an NPC to level, skills to skill, crafts that require farming and 15 jobs yet to take 1-99, seals I'll be getting aplenty.

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People will still have to work for them, they just will be able to get them the same way we have always got them (by exping), instead of being forced to kill ep shit that does not drop crests/high crests.

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

I absolutely read it... and again, no. People should have to work for something they seek. And the seals are not hard to get now... kill stuff>>get seals, how difficult was that? I've got empy weaps to make, an NPC to level, skills to skill, crafts that require farming and 15 jobs yet to take 1-99, seals I'll be getting aplenty.

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Most mobs people kill these days drop Crests, not Seals. Even mobs that used to be good for seals now drop Crests as well, making it less likely you will get the Seal you're seeking, because a Crest can drop in its place. Considering the pool of mobs you can get KS from is smaller, and there is hardly any reason to fight them anymore, KS are harder to come by. This in tandem with the KS99/Kings update actually makes that content accessible to those who work for it. And this is coming from someone who only ever did one KSNM30, preferring ever after to hoard his KS for later KS99 spammage.

And who knows? The exchange rate may be 1 KC = 1 KS. Would that really be so bad?

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

seriously, tired of having game content spoon-fed to me and to other players. You didn't get my interest in a game for 9 years by making the total content soloable start to finish in 1 RL month.

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

...and 15 jobs yet to take 1-99, seals I'll be getting aplenty.

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So than it would be a proper assumption that you agree with my post about raising the LvCap for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75, right?

Or do you support Abyssea Leech PTs?

I think you miss the part where they didn't categorically say no to increasing drop rate.

And I don't care what people are killing now, BB is old content, KS are old content, KS99 is old content, go earn it old way!

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Originally Posted by Akujima

So than it would be a proper assumption that you agree with my post about raising the LvCap for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75, right?

Or do you support Abyssea Leech PTs?

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i always did support the entrance cap for Aby being 75. I just don't waste my breath posting about it because I know they never will. Seriously, tired of level 90 noobs trying to cover their inadequacy by walking around in godly gear/Atma that was simply spoonfed to them. This game is getting to be on par with Candyland, both for difficulty and player skill.

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

I think you miss the part where they didn't categorically say no to increasing drop rate.

And I don't care what people are killing now, BB is old content, KS are old content, KS99 is old content, go earn it old way!

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Not that it has anything to do with what you were falsely bitching about (and not reading) but...

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Originally Posted by Camate

Howdy!

From a balance perspective, making any adjustments to the amount of seals dropped or removing time limitations would have to be dealt with extremely delicately, mainly due to the fact that these seals are used in certain quests as well as other battlefields. Any change to the amount in circulation would ultimately result in a reduction in item value. To avoid this, we are thinking about making it possible to exchange seals and will be looking into specific exchange rates and rules. We’ll be sure to keep you posted on any developments.

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Yeah, they most certainly didn't say they were attempting to avoid it.

(You also seem to think the "old way" still exists which is laughable and a poor deflection at being called out on being wrong, suck it up and admit or just stop making a fool out of yourself, it's an embarrassment).

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

And I don't care what people are killing now, BB is old content, KS are old content, KS99 is old content, go earn it old way!

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Ok, sure. I will go earn my kindred seals the old way.

Wait, the old way was exping? And exp mobs don't drop kindred seals anymore? Then how the hell am i supposed to do it the "old way"?