[dev1000] So we are definitely trying to kill Dynamis, I see....

The coin rate, as of my about 45 minute solo sojourn (and, yes, I did do a number of kills in Dynamis-Bastok, wiping myself to the new placement of the SMN NM by the chocobo stables), was ZERO.

That's right, Square-Enix: You intend to eradicate all coins out of Dynamis so we who have been trying to at least make some forward progress to a relic can go to Hell?

Yeah, it'll increase the coin access throughout the world -- for whom, may I dare ask?

Debbie and myself completley agree with you, for once..

This is so lol and the funny thing is, empyreans are better..

Currency drop rate is horrible ill admit that. Ill hold back on saying its the end til more stuff is figured out, but its not looking good.

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Debbie and myself completley agree with you, for once..

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Good to know I have Mrs. Rutledge Taylor's blessing.

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Originally Posted by Denabond

Currency drop rate is horrible ill admit that. Ill hold back on saying its the end til more stuff is figured out, but its not looking good.

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No, it's not. I can understand maybe not making it so high like before (where you could get 4 in a drop), because the mobs are EP to a 90.

The problem is not the challenge of dealing with the new setup, nor the challenge of the mobs -- it's the fact that you have a situation where the very real possible result is a ZERO drop rate.

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Originally Posted by Starcade

No, it's not. I can understand maybe not making it so high like before (where you could get 4 in a drop), because the mobs are EP to a 90.

The problem is not the challenge of dealing with the new setup, nor the challenge of the mobs -- it's the fact that you have a situation where the very real possible result is a ZERO drop rate.

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Just cause killing the regular mobs and they have a shitty drop rate on currancy still doesn't mean NMs drop rate is horrible as well. I'm gonna hold off on saying it fails til most NMs have been killed and a general idea on how new dyna works. If its possible for NMs to drop multiple 100s, then its fine (although i highly doubt SE would do that).

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it's the fact that you have a situation where the very real possible result is a ZERO drop rate.

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But to counter that, you can go in daily for free. So this potential zero will even out to a plus.

The dynamis change so far seems absolutely terrible. They've pretty much killed relics at this point until they fix something. No one wants to have to bring an alliances to fight new dynamis NMs or to get 100 coins.

I could understand capping coins to one per mob, but virtually one per run? That's a slap in the face.

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Originally Posted by Return1

The dynamis change so far seems absolutely terrible. They've pretty much killed relics at this point until they fix something. No one wants to have to bring an alliances to fight new dynamis NMs or to get 100 coins.

I could understand capping coins to one per mob, but virtually one per run? That's a slap in the face.

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I don't mind the challenge -- in fact, I would not mind having the opportunity to solo (very very carefully, mind you!!)in Dynamis.

But there has to be at least some currency involved here, or you run the risk of the playerbase basically saying "The Hell with it!"

I can understand reducing the droprate of currency so people aren't swimming in it -- there are times, with a good drop, you could get four currencies off a single regular mob (plus the possible gear).

But to reduce it to the point of a premium (or, God forbid, putting triggers in this situation -- please tell me that didn't happen!) will kill Dynamis because there will be no point to it any more.

You take the ONE part that makes Abyssea not fun -- standing around twiddling your thumbs because your job can't proc the right color -- and put it in Killzone Dynamis?

At least you got the drop rates on currency right so there's the slightest chance of finishing the relic I started. Oh, wait...

I've never in the 6+ years I've been playing FFXI been this close to quitting. You have taken fun content and made it suck. Well done.

NMs have a pretty damn high drop rate for 100 pieces (near 100%, or 100%, not sure yet). It's not hard at all to make tons more currency than you would in olde Dynamis if you target the NMs.

You're welcome.

Agreed. Seems silly that if they are going to go so far as rebalancing the mobs as well, they need to look at risk/reward again.

I am going to give it a try before I make a judgement on it. It's very appealing to me to go in solo or with a few friends, just as Abyssea is. All I really want to do is finish 2 sets of relic armor either to upgrade or store. Yes, there are still some pieces of relic worth upgrading.

I do feel for those who have started or are close to finishing relic weapons. They might not be as good as Empyrean true enough, but the people who have them in the various stages have spent many hours in Dynamis earning the currency, getting the testimonies, shards of necropyshe (sp) etc have received a huge slap in the face. I understand that a price had to be paid to revamp Dynamis, in this case the almost 0 drop rate of coins that has been reported. The least you could have done SE was to make the regular coin drop rate 1 per mob. 100's were always not so easy to get, especially in Dreamworlds, best drop rate for them was always Bastok and Beaucedine.

Sadly only time will tell how this change fairs.

For those who "Didn't spend blah years doing blah blah to be outdamaged." Yes, you did. It's a fact of life that being the best is a full time job. SE will continue to add content faster than you can accomplish it until the 99 cap levels the playing field. Hopefully you didn't think an adaberk and ridill were going to stay king forever. Regarding dynamis, why would you want to farm 100 singles when you could get one 100 peice? If you're considering quitting one day after content is released that you don't even understand yet, we support your decision. Just stop complaining so much. SE is finally doing a great job of listening, try asking instead of complaining. You might actually get an answer that way, or an explanation on how currency drops now.

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For those who "Didn't spend blah years doing blah blah to be outdamaged." Yes, you did. It's a fact of life that being the best is a full time job. SE will continue to add content faster than you can accomplish it until the 99 cap levels the playing field. Hopefully you didn't think an adaberk and ridill were going to stay king forever. Regarding dynamis, why would you want to farm 100 singles when you could get one 100 peice? If you're considering quitting one day after content is released that you don't even understand yet, we support your decision. Just stop complaining so much. SE is finally doing a great job of listening, try asking instead of complaining. You might actually get an answer that way, or an explanation on how currency drops now.

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When SE said "we're changing dynamis" they read it as "We're making relics fall from the sky"

That didn't happen and now people are angry. That's what's causing all the bawwwing around here right now.

I rescind muy prior statement.

New Dynamis gets nothing but love from me. AF rains, 100s are good, and I get to kill multiple Velosareons in a run. All is right in the world lol.

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You take the ONE part that makes Abyssea not fun -- standing around twiddling your thumbs because your job can't proc the right color -- and put it in Killzone Dynamis?

At least you got the drop rates on currency right so there's the slightest chance of finishing the relic I started. Oh, wait...

I've never in the 6+ years I've been playing FFXI been this close to quitting. You have taken fun content and made it suck. Well done.

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It's to the point that they might as well just declare Shinryu taking over "real Vana'diel" and make the entire game into high-level Abyssea content.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

NMs have a pretty damn high drop rate for 100 pieces (near 100%, or 100%, not sure yet). It's not hard at all to make tons more currency than you would in olde Dynamis if you target the NMs.

You're welcome.

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If they do that, you know what will happen.

Hell, if I wasn't more careful on the Astral Flow, soloing the SMN NM Quadav in Bastok would've been a snap.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

NMs have a pretty damn high drop rate for 100 pieces (near 100%, or 100%, not sure yet). It's not hard at all to make tons more currency than you would in olde Dynamis if you target the NMs.

You're welcome.

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Killed 3 NMs myself with TH7, the Orc DRG, in Sandy Dropped nothing but a Pop Item.

2 Orc NMs in Beaucedine as well, a WHM and a WAR near the Bottom Tower, Dropped Nothing but pop items as well.

All with TH7, Not 100% drop rate, or near it :(

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Originally Posted by Cowardlybabooon

For those who "Didn't spend blah years doing blah blah to be outdamaged." Yes, you did. It's a fact of life that being the best is a full time job. SE will continue to add content faster than you can accomplish it until the 99 cap levels the playing field. Hopefully you didn't think an adaberk and ridill were going to stay king forever. Regarding dynamis, why would you want to farm 100 singles when you could get one 100 peice? If you're considering quitting one day after content is released that you don't even understand yet, we support your decision. Just stop complaining so much. SE is finally doing a great job of listening, try asking instead of complaining. You might actually get an answer that way, or an explanation on how currency drops now.

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Is this Jeopardy?

Do I have to phrase it in the form of a question??

In complaining, that's exactly what I'm trying to do. And, no, I do not think Square-Enix is doing anything more than lip service with these forums, FWIW.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Killed 3 NMs myself with TH7, the Orc DRG, in Sandy Dropped nothing but a Pop Item.

2 Orc NMs in Beaucedine as well, a WHM and a WAR near the Bottom Tower, Dropped Nothing but pop items as well.

All with TH7, Not 100% drop rate, or near it :(

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you were able to leave and enter a different dynamis zone? with 24 hour wait i am just trying to understand how u did sandy and beaucedine :)

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you were able to leave and enter a different dynamis zone? with 24 hour wait i am just trying to understand how u did sandy and beaucedine :)

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Yesterday Sandy.

Today Beauc.

It resets at JP Midnight

I'm recounting the 3 NMs i've killed over the recent trips.

My 4 man group got a 50% drop rate, and they seem to respawn relatively fast, like gokumatz. There's also quite a few of them, so enough to go around for decent farming.

I am currently in a Dynamis - Beaucedine run and I am freakin disgusted!!! We have been in here for 45mins and have had 3 pieces of currency drop. Not only that but they are allowing more than one shell in a zone at a time (I didn't know this until I saw it for myself). There WERE 2 events in FFXI that I actually made time for and they were Dynamis and Limbus. <Thank You> SE for taking away one of my favorite events. Oh, and don't even get me started on them adding XP to namis now. Oh sure, the XP is less than 20 a mob but it's the fact of the matter. And, now we can just snk/invis past mobs we don't want to kill... Really!? And, instead of fighting/dieing and earning your way to the mega boss for the clear all you have to do is farm up the pop item. I looked through the zones and I saw and talked to ppl that were freakin SOLOING Dynamis. I do, however, like the way my name looks now so at least they did something right. This makes me sick to my stomach I'm done typing I'm going to go vomit now.

At least have one currency piece per mob drop. =/

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At least have one currency piece per mob drop. =/

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I can understand that, on average -- and that would be a significant drop.

But where's this explosion of currency in total all over the world at this rate?

Shyeah right. Currency prices about to explode or implode!

Am I missing something or all these people complaining just being sarcastic? This is freaking awesome.

1) EXP. Low, but still better than none.

2) In exchange for the lack of 1's, 100 coins drop like rain compared to before.

3) NMs respawn fast, so you can just pick one group and spam kill for currency of choice, and competition shouldn't be too bad.

4) No more locking out of Dynamis because some dbag ls jumped in.

5) Multiple shots at Zone Wins, Attestations, Fragment, DL drops, and trials.

6) New version of DL with potentially boosted drops?


This new dynamis is pretty good. I hated the horror stories I heard at first, but after my trips, the update has been proven to be an amazng change for the better in all areas. Once people learn to tell their head from their @#$ in the new layout/methods, the currency is really going to pick up for them too.

I've pretty much lost my mind with Dynamis. Im 4000/6000 on completing my stage 4... and working on my stage 5.
I have my attestation and fragment but do not see myself completing. Ever. No one on my server even tries the new dynamis. I've been the only group from time to time going around and killing shit and seeing ZERO coins. We want our old dynamis back. Now.

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No one on my server even tries the new dynamis.

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Make next set of Empyrean upgrades use Dynamis Currency. Problem fixed.

So I tried Xarcabard: Solo 90 BST.

No deaths.

Even killed an NM and got a pop item!

3 AF2 as well: BLU, RDM, MNK. (2 I can actually use!)

Coins??? Coins????

ZERO!!!

Killed everything from statues and demons and the occasional Eye to even a dragon and some Satellite Daggers.

Jack nor... you know... for coins.

Look, if Square-Enix makes this about procs to get any coins whatsoever, I think I'm going to throw up! Doesn't have to be the old levels of drops, either. Average of one per or maybe a shade less, so be it.

But this is just... COME ON!!

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I've pretty much lost my mind with Dynamis. Im 4000/6000 on completing my stage 4... and working on my stage 5.
I have my attestation and fragment but do not see myself completing. Ever. No one on my server even tries the new dynamis. I've been the only group from time to time going around and killing shit and seeing ZERO coins. We want our old dynamis back. Now.

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I'll take one coin per mob, on average.

I like the ability that, if you're careful, you can now solo in Dynamis.

But what I don't like is this zero coins BS. Even got a time extension in Xarcabard and still didn't drop crap.

You guys must be doing it wrong.

Signet + NIN/DNC or THF/DNC

Spend one hour inside beau where the yagudo MNK nm used to spawn. Spam kill gobs until nm pops. Kill NM. Repeat.

An easy ~200 coins a run.

I really like the Dynamis changes. They have breathed new life into a stale event. It's a lot of fun to go in and figure out new things. Kudos SE.

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Originally Posted by Starcade

The coin rate, as of my about 45 minute solo sojourn (and, yes, I did do a number of kills in Dynamis-Bastok, wiping myself to the new placement of the SMN NM by the chocobo stables), was ZERO.

That's right, Square-Enix: You intend to eradicate all coins out of Dynamis so we who have been trying to at least make some forward progress to a relic can go to Hell?

Yeah, it'll increase the coin access throughout the world -- for whom, may I dare ask?

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But now you can solo Dynamis, and since you don't trust anyone in the game this seems ideal.

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Originally Posted by Starcade

Q_Q

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All I see here are tears.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Killed 3 NMs myself with TH7, the Orc DRG, in Sandy Dropped nothing but a Pop Item.

2 Orc NMs in Beaucedine as well, a WHM and a WAR near the Bottom Tower, Dropped Nothing but pop items as well.

All with TH7, Not 100% drop rate, or near it :(

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Laaame! All the groups I'd heard from on Day 1 had a 100% drop rate on the 100s from NMs in Xarc, never tried other zones. :(

We went to dynamis beaucidine last night with nin/war, thf/nin/, and smn/whm all level 90. th 5. got 12 af drops, and at least 5 small currancy drops off of the goblins. I thought it went pretty well.

I'd wait and give it a decent chance before I say yay or nae to the new Dynamis. I'm not really suprised the drop rate on currency has diminished so much, being that 5 times the people will likely enter a day from small parties to soloists, our entry per week has multiplied by 3.5, and thers no longer the 500k fee I think it about averages out. At the very least DL seems to be easily popped now.

while we were to busy getting a feel for dyna last night to have any currency comlaints our LS generally had 1 issue,the enemies were respawning way to fast.we got stuck in an area in dyna bastok because the enemies were respawning faster than we could take old ones out.

Ok, questions and comments from someone who's just soloed and duo'd in new dynamis a bit:

First, I'm confused about the NMs. Are they force pop, time pop, mix? People are talking about spamming NMs and getting tons of 100s. But I thought NMs were force pop? Is that only some of them? Which aren't? How much stronger are they than the normal mobs?

If 100s really are that common off NMs, then I can understand currency essentially never dropping off normal mobs. That's a fair exchange. If, however, the NM drop rates are being exaggerated, then I think, as others have been saying, that an average drop rate of 1/mob is appropriate, and should be implemented.

Second, according to wiki, dynamis now has weakness targeting. SE, I humbly ask you to PLEASE reconsider this decision. Abyssea has been a huge success and we're all happy with it, but PLEASE keep abyssea in abyssea. One of the things that makes FFXI so enjoyable is the diversity of different game mechanics and the differences in strategy that they entail. You've already brought Abyssea out into the world with Voidwalkers. Can you just leave it at that? I don't want want to have to blue !! valkurm emperor to get a hairpin, and I don't want to have to yellow !! all my dynamis mobs for currency. It is an abyssea mechanic, and it should stay there. Abyssea brought new life into the game, and we're all grateful for it, but don't interpret its success as a sign that the entire game needs to be exactly like it.

i am having a riot atm getting lots of relic pieces to finish sets to store 11 pieces yesterday and today not including ones the rest of group got
did seem to almost always drop currency on procs with seemed to really vary how to proc seen it drop on weapon skills and job abilities and each time was different but always seemed to drop currency when did so lol staggering mobs in dynamis made me laugh first time