[To the Devs] Nerf petrify for the sake of solo players or just called it "Death"

getting petrified for 1~1:30 min is no fun

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Originally Posted by hordecore

Nerf Petrify

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Worst idea ever.

Actually, why are there two types of Petrify?

The player version is just basically a "Earth-based" Sleep.

The mob version is just basically a "Earth-based" Terror.

Have one or the other, not both.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Actually, why are there two types of Petrify?

The player version is just basically a "Earth-based" Sleep.

The mob version is just basically a "Earth-based" Terror.

Have one or the other, not both.

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I'd agree with this if having the "Earth-based" Terror wouldn't be so damn overpowering on the player's side.

Um... petrify is hardly certain death. That's all I have to say on this.

Sometimes you can go on an evasion streak and still not die. Use to solo the Tier 2 VNM in abyssea attowah, likes to use brakega. However often I wouldn't even die when it went off, since it would just miss me till it wore off.

Debating whether I should put Hordecore on block list or not. Sad to say that all his whiny demands for SE to "fix" every little thing he sees as an inconvenience are really annoying me. And if you don't know what I'm talking about then just do a search on all topics started by him.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Sometimes you can go on an evasion streak and still not die. Use to solo the Tier 2 VNM in abyssea attowah, likes to use brakega. However often I wouldn't even die when it went off, since it would just miss me till it wore off.

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Never seen the T2 in Attohwa cast Breakga, only single target Break.

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Originally Posted by hordecore

getting petrified for 1~1:30 min is no fun

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So sad too bad. Get a healer type NPC and at high enough level he/she might Stona you if he/she doesn't run out of MP after casting Pro and Shell IV, Haste, Bio II, Paralyze, Slow, Blink and Stoneskin. :)

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Originally Posted by Rie

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Seriously (going to sound like a n00b), I never knew you could avoid Petrify by turning around. Makes sense, thanks =]

A while ago, I was fighting a Mist Lizard and got petrified and then got chained by another Lizard and then aggro'd by a gob. Not a fun time.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Actually, why are there two types of Petrify?

The player version is just basically a "Earth-based" Sleep.

The mob version is just basically a "Earth-based" Terror.

Have one or the other, not both.

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They screwed up bind a long time ago as well. I used to have fun with that on rdm and blm. *get hate* > *bind the mob in place* > *let the melee's beat the hell out of it till it's off you* Now petri and bind are cookie cutter versions of each other with the first lasting longer than the second.

Kinda curious did hordecore get banned for a while or something? It's been a while since he's spammed his two random thoughts for the day.

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Originally Posted by Rie

Most of the time, you can turn away and avoid getting petrified. Suck less.

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I heard there's this thing called latency that prevents you from seeing things in time to actually react in a way that would prevent the effect or damage. Confirm/Deny?

There's also everyone's favorite campaign mob, Gi'Ghi Rockchopper who seems to have the uncanny ability to chain-breakga for insane range while perpetually having 2 pets capable of inflicting you with Calcifying Mist for yet even more stoner fun of the non-cannabis variety. Now I have the munchies.

I need clarification:

To nerf petrified, you mean to banned all [A] n00b who started the game 2 days ago and got 3 level 90 jobs and always afk/petrified in an exp pt or the magic petrify?

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Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon

They screwed up bind a long time ago as well. I used to have fun with that on rdm and blm. *get hate* > *bind the mob in place* > *let the melee's beat the hell out of it till it's off you* Now petri and bind are cookie cutter versions of each other with the first lasting longer than the second.

Kinda curious did hordecore get banned for a while or something? It's been a while since he's spammed his two random thoughts for the day.

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Not quite right, but close. I favor Break when I don't want a mob casting on me (Silence won't land, just wore, or I haven't cast it yet) or plinking me with ranged attacks. Otherwise, yeah, I tend to use Break much like Bind.

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Originally Posted by Eeek

Not quite right, but close. I favor Break when I don't want a mob casting on me (Silence won't land, just wore, or I haven't cast it yet) or plinking me with ranged attacks. Otherwise, yeah, I tend to use Break much like Bind.

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True true, sorry I overlooked that aspect. I just miss the days of binding a sleeping mob then nuking the piss out of him before it wore off. I quit blm years ago, came back during the abyssea add ons. I noticed the gimp to bind, got my hopes up for break, then got disappointed again when I saw it wore off in a similar fashion.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

I heard there's this thing called latency that prevents you from seeing things in time to actually react in a way that would prevent the effect or damage. Confirm/Deny?

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Maybe lag, but if you are paying attention you can easily see "Sand Lizard casts Baleful Gaze on X" or "Evil Eye casts Level 5 Petrify on X" in plenty of time to turn away from it and avoid any subsequent damage.

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Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon

True true, sorry I overlooked that aspect. I just miss the days of binding a sleeping mob then nuking the piss out of him before it wore off. I quit blm years ago, came back during the abyssea add ons. I noticed the gimp to bind, got my hopes up for break, then got disappointed again when I saw it wore off in a similar fashion.

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I think all of us mages were disappointed when Break didn't work like the Petrify that mobs get to use. :(

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Originally Posted by Octaviane

Maybe lag, but if you are paying attention you can easily see "Sand Lizard casts Baleful Gaze on X" or "Evil Eye casts Level 5 Petrify on X" in plenty of time to turn away from it and avoid any subsequent damage.

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While this is Correct for Baleful Gaze from lizards, Level 5 Petrify is not a gaze attack, so turning would not prevent it.

However, there are exceptions to the Baleful gaze, "Baleful gaze" from Cockatrice is near instant, unless you're already turning/turned around when it readies it (Thanks to lovely game lag) you're always going to be hit, which it crap.

However, I will say, If we were to "nerf" Petrify, I would like it simply to be similar to player petrify, make it to where getting hit has a small chance to "break" petrify. Would be nice, not needed, but nice.

How in the world would I have fun MPK'ing my LS in Dynamis-Bastok? On that first Beastmaster pull, I get my Diaga nice and ready...

So you object to petrify while soloing but you're ok with paralyze?

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Originally Posted by Hoshi

So you object to petrify while soloing but you're ok with paralyze?

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Also FK slow.

nothing more I hate than soloing a mob and i get hit some ridiculously potent Slow. (looking at you Intimidate, Sticky Thread, Sprout Smack)

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Originally Posted by hordecore

getting petrified for 1~1:30 min is no fun

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Alright, I figured out why you're a troll.

You're proving a point which I agree with man. Everyone just wants to be spoon fed and lower the game to "Easy-Mode"

Cmon' I figured it out, and I /salute you for trolling this way.

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Originally Posted by Akujima

Alright, I figured out why you're a troll.

You're proving a point which I agree with man. Everyone just wants to be spoon fed and lower the game to "Easy-Mode"

Cmon' I figured it out, and I /salute you for trolling this way.

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This game is already on easy mode.

Some people here want this to be Baby mode

Mob casts petrify: Players cannot move or act and can be beaten to within an inch of their life and there is little they can do about it until the effect wears off.

I cast Break: If I blink wrong the effect has worn off and the mob recovers. This is more than annoying, it's dumb. This means Break doesnt last as long as sleep, doesnt pull off as quickly as stun (which I sometimes use it for when solo'ing) and is generally broken (for players at least). Why would Square completely ruin the spell for players? Even if it gave you free reign to beat the mob for 10 seconds, thats at least somewhat helpful. The way it is now feels kind of useless. How about if they un-nerf Break and make it more like Petrify?

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Originally Posted by SnapperTrx

How about if they un-nerf Break and make it more like Petrify?

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This I can get behind.

My initial idea of break was it would petrify for a minute or so, but the mob would get like a 95% damage reduction, if not outright immune.

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Originally Posted by Seriha

My initial idea of break was it would petrify for a minute or so, but the mob would get like a 95% damage reduction, if not outright immune.

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The only problem I have with that is the fact that when a player is petrified they recieve no such benefit. I understand that mobs get spells that are 'tweeked', but Break cast by a player and Break cast by a mob are completely different spells. What they should do is give it a bit lower of a success rate (mabye, I dont think I have ever resisted a Breakga or had it not take effect) and a shorter window of effect, but give it THE SAME effect. The mob should not be able to move, act or respond in any way and we should get time to beat down on it. Heck, even 5 seconds is enough to give a player/party an advantage, if well placed, but wont win the fight.

Atma of the Horned Beast = Resist Petrify : sup and it reduces the chance to get petrified ALOT

so [To the poster] The devs have already nerfed petrify if ya get that atma.

PS not all soloers have ur problem i can use titan who is immue to it when/if i solo

if player break couldn't be broken. u could just keep every mob petrified. and this makes the game a lot easier / boring as it is since abyssea anyway.

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Originally Posted by Rezeak

PS not all soloers have ur problem i can use titan who is immue to it when/if i solo

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Titan is not immune, just have a very very very high resist. Like 95% resist rate.

Garuda too, she has a very high resist rate. 95% too.

But you need to take into effect that some "Break" TP moves aren't earth based either. Level 5 Petrify is dark based, but its 100% accurate to anything that has a 0 or 5 on the end of its level. Not even Resist Petrify is immune to it. Titan and Garuda both become petrified (although they get out of it a lot quicker than anyone) with that ability.

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Originally Posted by Octaviane

Maybe lag, but if you are paying attention you can easily see "Sand Lizard casts Baleful Gaze on X" or "Evil Eye casts Level 5 Petrify on X" in plenty of time to turn away from it and avoid any subsequent damage.

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I'd agree with you, were it not for the fact that I've missed stuns on Diabolos just as I've missed turning around for Baleful Gaze because the system message appears too late during combat.

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Originally Posted by Alukat

if player break couldn't be broken. u could just keep every mob petrified. and this makes the game a lot easier / boring as it is since abyssea anyway.

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That's why I suggested a lower success rate for player casting. Also, with a long enough recast timer, you wouldnt have to worry about someone spamming the spell too quickly. So unless you have a party full of RMD's I don't think it would be much of a problem. Like I said, 10 seconds is long enough to make it or break it (no pun intended) only if the spell is used tactically. Using it right at the beginning of a fight on a fresh mob would be pointless. Using it more like a stun or a chance to give healers to cure a badly wounded tank would be much more effective.