One of the things that annoys me in Abyssea is how we have to avoid getting certain kinds of lights so that the chests dropped from them don't interfere with the ones we want. Can we have it changed so that any chests that are applicable to drop will drop from a kill instead of just one of them randomly chosen?
Make multiple chests drop in Abyssea
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04-13-2011, 10:44 AMShadotterMake multiple chests drop in Abyssea
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04-13-2011, 10:48 AMElexia
I think it's weird enough mobs poop out chests to begin with as they die, it would be nice but I'm pretty sure there's a technical limitation to that.
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04-13-2011, 10:50 AMKarbuncle
Would be nice if there was some way to prevent certain chests from dropping =.=a But yah, Theres probably limitations to that sort of thing.
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04-13-2011, 12:15 PMSeriha
The only real alternative to not having chests would be to suddenly apply whatever bonus effect you would've gotten at the time of the mob's death. This, of course, would piss off the anti-ruby brigade even though it's very much possible for a solo player to keep themselves going indefinitely in Abyssea. More people just makes it easier. However, this would also mean key items for pops would need to be converted to actual items then the select few quests that do involve working on chests would need to be tweaked.
Perhaps the bigger problem involving chests is the shortage of DATs if a lot of groups happen to be cleaving for whatever reason. The only fixes I'm seeing here are to either add more chests if it's possible, or we wind up with something similar to the -aga farming nerf where now only a chest would drop from the mob a kill shot was performed on. The latter would most definitely piss off people who like to cleave. -
04-13-2011, 12:30 PMGennadiOk done i waved my woodly-dddodly magic wand presto!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadotter
(um you need to have the Dev tags so the Dev people can see your request) -
04-14-2011, 06:07 AMShadotter
Doh :(
Well, I think they still read the posts regularly, hopefully. -
04-14-2011, 06:14 AMJackastheripper
Only reason I don't like this idea is because then, leveling in Abyssea would be completely mindless. I think the light/chest system adds some kind of strategy to an otherwise mindless grind session. But that is just me.
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04-14-2011, 09:09 AMRambus
uh yeah i do not find it fun holding tp or worring if my ws will kill the mob.
then you have times where ws one shots the mob because you got that tripple attack + all hits crting or w/e.
why is there such a huge drawback for getting ws kills when most of the time it is 70%-100% mob hp?
then you have 2 people that go after one mob and ws at start at same time.... ya ruby kill -
04-14-2011, 09:20 AMrogNot really. Only idiots, or gimps avoid getting all lights anyway. Everyone else mindlessly gets all lights.Quote:
Only reason I don't like this idea is because then, leveling in Abyssea would be completely mindless. I think the light/chest system adds some kind of strategy to an otherwise mindless grind session. But that is just me.
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04-14-2011, 09:30 AMRambuswas talking more event but w/e, ya exp should not matter much.Quote:
Originally Posted by rog
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04-14-2011, 09:36 AMShadotter
Yeah, one of the things I hate in xp parties is that they will kick people for getting ruby, but without ruby drops there are no gold and silver lights, and I kinda like those.
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04-14-2011, 09:39 AMRambushate to be on your sever, guess emp weapon people are useless or good wars , etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Shadotter
and how can you kick someone if 2 people ws a mob at 100% to kill it for ruby? so not right -
04-14-2011, 10:18 AMrogOr just one even.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambus
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04-14-2011, 10:41 AMRambusyeah i know, not all jobs/people ,can do it in 1 but i did note that /sigh.Quote:
Originally Posted by rog
my war is not even that great, no emp items and i did it with RR before, one melee swing to engage (not even DA), ws and it was dead.
but I would find a bigger conflicting issue with kicking someone/people when you really can't pin fault, like 2+ people ws at same time -
04-14-2011, 01:16 PMShadotter
Well, nobody got kicked, but it was threatened. Pretty sure I saw a lot less weaponskills after that.
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04-14-2011, 01:26 PMJackastheripperI didn't say it was mindlessn't as it is. I was saying that if they took away the chest aspect, the little skill it takes to stay in Abyssea would then be gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by rog
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04-14-2011, 01:27 PMrogBut it does not take any skill to stay in abyssea. You simply need to have a brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackastheripper
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04-14-2011, 09:30 PMRambusyou know that like 60% playerbase can't do that right? Just after getting my friend in a good pt, the blms, blu, w/e left and we where stuck with 2 blm that full time dark staff, etc,etc that could not damage stuff for crap and failed to get killshots.Quote:
Originally Posted by rog
so... he got kicked out.... too meny new people getting killshots, no azure. -
04-15-2011, 02:57 AMrogLike i said, you need to have a brain. Why would you be getting azure on the same mobs as the rest of your alliance is fighting? Have the blms solo ephemereal mobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambus
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04-15-2011, 05:04 AMOlor
can someone explain to me why people QQ over ruby?
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04-15-2011, 05:25 AMrog
Because they are stupid.
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04-15-2011, 05:29 AMKarbuncle
The "Reason" (i say "reason" because i think its Bullcrap) is because most Exp Alliance Suck so bad, that they can't possibly survive without Keeping Nothing but Blue Boxes spawning to barely scrape enough time to stay in.
Basically, Gimp Leaders invite Gimp People who Gimp the party and they can't handle Red Boxes spawning because they're too gimp to kill fast enough to not time out because of it. -
04-15-2011, 05:37 AMblowfinIt interferes with time extensions maaaaan. Cause leaving Abyss with anything less than 600 minutes on the clock isn't allowed.Quote:
can someone explain to me why people QQ over ruby?
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04-15-2011, 07:47 AMOlor
Ok so ruby is no problem unless people are idiots... is that what I am hearing?
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04-15-2011, 07:49 AMrog
Correct.
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04-15-2011, 07:49 AMRambusbecause the blms there was doing like 400-1400 per nuke... what do you think happens when you have people that do not have a clue?Quote:
Originally Posted by rog
about ruby what is the point when you are scraping TE in Lowman event? I would assume the topic was more so directed for that. Not exp. -
04-15-2011, 07:52 AMblowfinCorrect, a few ruby is quite healthy for most things in Abyss and you need ruby chests to cap out EXP and Cruor yields totally. If you have someone who keeps insisting that they Physical WS kill things in your group though, particularly at the start of an EXP session, thats where problems can start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olor
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04-15-2011, 08:14 AMKuishenThat is not how you fucking use the Dev tags. I know that YOU were probably sarcastic but the OP probably didn't realize you were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gennadi
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04-15-2011, 09:31 PMKarinya_of_CarbuncleThat's not just not having a clue, that's not having atma or gear. I do more than that nuking on RDM. 400 from a BLM means they're getting *resisted* by *abyssea mobs*, i.e. T or lower. That's just sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambus
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04-15-2011, 09:35 PMRambusbecause they full time dark staff to nuke in on top of not having atma.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Karinya_of_Carbuncle
I can claim the same for my RDM,SCH,BLU or hell even NIN or WHM....
anyways...
these red chests are anoying, when I did event last night we could not get Te for last hour all it was is red chest, temp items and exp. like we need exp chests for event, i do not even bother opening them.
I made a strong effort not to ws kill too, I would raging rush, a second ranging rush if it was weak or KJ if it was semi weak.
can we remove exp chests from the game? don't need them