Request for sane, non-luck-based alternative to Defending Ring

Can we have an item that is perhaps an upgrade to the long-standing defending ring?

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Gwydion

Can we have an item that is perhaps an upgrade to the long-standing defending ring?

Thank you.

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If there's a alternative then nobody would be bothered with log in campaign anymore, less income for SE since some ppl paid for mules just for log in points.

I vote no.

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Originally Posted by Afania

If there's a alternative then nobody would be bothered with log in campaign anymore, less income for SE since some ppl paid for mules just for log in points.

I vote no.

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your reasoning is because of the login campaign and mule count...?

The issue I see is that adding a second ring isnt going to stop people from trying to get the first. If the one they added was an upgrade, say 15%, you will just have people wearing both rings for 25%

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Originally Posted by Finuve

your reasoning is because of the login campaign and mule count...?

The issue I see is that adding a second ring isnt going to stop people from trying to get the first. If the one they added was an upgrade, say 15%, you will just have people wearing both rings for 25%

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You can easily cap PDT- with a 15% ring though, making D ring a lot less attractive. Atm it's not very easy to cap PDT- without a Dring, so everyone would toss gil/points to get one.

I don't understand why's mule count/extra income not a good reason, if SE makes money, more resource goes into this game and vice versa.

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Originally Posted by Afania

You can easily cap PDT- with a 15% ring though, making D ring a lot less attractive. Atm it's not very easy to cap PDT- without a Dring, so everyone would toss gil/points to get one.

I don't understand why's mule count/extra income not a good reason, if SE makes money, more resource goes into this game and vice versa.

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toss 25% in your ring slots and you can dedicate your other PDT slots to better gear

and with that logic, lets just jack mule prices up to $2 a piece and increase the base cost to $15

I just wish they would do away with this shared drop slot nonsense. Then again I'm clearly biased as it would make treasure hunter more useful.

Why does it even have to be an upgrade? Why not just another 10% ring obtained from a different source? That seems more reasonable to ask for then for a ring that's even stronger then one people are willing to pay tens of millions of gil and/or significant amounts of rl money for.

more than likely the only way se would give something again like the Dring would probably be a set item somthing like ring1: +50hp ring2:def +25 set effect: Dt-15, wich would still give Dring a use for flexablity but the combo would be stronger for purely lowering incoming dmg.

I just spent 4000 login points on 23 characters for a total of 92 beastly shanks, which resulted in 18 savory shanks.

I am currently 0/51 for d.ring. :/

This is stupid. I don't even consider d.ring farming to be content.

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Originally Posted by Metaking

more than likely the only way se would give something again like the Dring would probably be a set item somthing like ring1: +50hp ring2:def +25 set effect: Dt-15, wich would still give Dring a use for flexablity but the combo would be stronger for purely lowering incoming dmg.

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this seems like a pretty good idea to me

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Originally Posted by Finuve

toss 25% in your ring slots and you can dedicate your other PDT slots to better gear

and with that logic, lets just jack mule prices up to $2 a piece and increase the base cost to $15

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Mule/sub fee increase hurts everyone though, most ppl won't accept it. No company in the mind would to that to a 12 year old MMO. Now it's kinda "if you want more chance for a Dring you gonna pay more".

I know it worked cuz I know some ppl did paid for mules just for shanks, and it's pretty much the only item that's worth getting with points atm if you're not a returning player.

The sane, non luck-based alternative to d.ring is.. drumroll.. playing the game with less DT-.

You aren't owed every drop in the game, or an equivalent. It's completely attainable right now, it's just tedious for some people.

Not sure about an alternative (if you wanted to be objective you could argue that dark rings ARE the alternative), but more than one ??? for behe/kb pops would be lovely.

Get a 6/6/6 dark ring. Bam you get almost as much pdt, capping mdt is easy enough anyways and thanks to the weirdness that is augments you actually get more bdt than dring

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Originally Posted by Stompa

I know people who were 0/250~ on both the Ebisu KIs btw, and those fish take a while to catch or gil to buy..

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I think the record from back in the was around 1800 per fish so yeah it can get really crazy. Plus at least Dring is still useful Ebisu is mostly a trophy item since they nerfed fishing so hard

i'd take a pair of enemy critrate-3/pdt-6/bdt-6 dark rings over defending anyday, good luck finding that though