Request for sane, non-luck-based alternative to Defending Ring

[Gwydion]

Can we have an item that is perhaps an upgrade to the long-standing defending ring?

Thank you.

[Afania]

Can we have an item that is perhaps an upgrade to the long-standing defending ring?

Thank you.

If there's a alternative then nobody would be bothered with log in campaign anymore, less income for SE since some ppl paid for mules just for log in points.

I vote no.

[Finuve]

If there's a alternative then nobody would be bothered with log in campaign anymore, less income for SE since some ppl paid for mules just for log in points.

I vote no.

your reasoning is because of the login campaign and mule count...?

The issue I see is that adding a second ring isnt going to stop people from trying to get the first. If the one they added was an upgrade, say 15%, you will just have people wearing both rings for 25%

[Afania]

your reasoning is because of the login campaign and mule count...?

The issue I see is that adding a second ring isnt going to stop people from trying to get the first. If the one they added was an upgrade, say 15%, you will just have people wearing both rings for 25%

You can easily cap PDT- with a 15% ring though, making D ring a lot less attractive. Atm it's not very easy to cap PDT- without a Dring, so everyone would toss gil/points to get one.

I don't understand why's mule count/extra income not a good reason, if SE makes money, more resource goes into this game and vice versa.

[Finuve]

You can easily cap PDT- with a 15% ring though, making D ring a lot less attractive. Atm it's not very easy to cap PDT- without a Dring, so everyone would toss gil/points to get one.

I don't understand why's mule count/extra income not a good reason, if SE makes money, more resource goes into this game and vice versa.

toss 25% in your ring slots and you can dedicate your other PDT slots to better gear

and with that logic, lets just jack mule prices up to $2 a piece and increase the base cost to $15

[Afania]

toss 25% in your ring slots and you can dedicate your other PDT slots to better gear

and with that logic, lets just jack mule prices up to $2 a piece and increase the base cost to $15

Mule/sub fee increase hurts everyone though, most ppl won't accept it. No company in the mind would to that to a 12 year old MMO. Now it's kinda "if you want more chance for a Dring you gonna pay more".

I know it worked cuz I know some ppl did paid for mules just for shanks, and it's pretty much the only item that's worth getting with points atm if you're not a returning player.

[Ulth]

I just wish they would do away with this shared drop slot nonsense. Then again I'm clearly biased as it would make treasure hunter more useful.

[Zekander]

Why does it even have to be an upgrade? Why not just another 10% ring obtained from a different source? That seems more reasonable to ask for then for a ring that's even stronger then one people are willing to pay tens of millions of gil and/or significant amounts of rl money for.

[Metaking]

more than likely the only way se would give something again like the Dring would probably be a set item somthing like ring1: +50hp ring2:def +25 set effect: Dt-15, wich would still give Dring a use for flexablity but the combo would be stronger for purely lowering incoming dmg.

[Gwydion]

I just spent 4000 login points on 23 characters for a total of 92 beastly shanks, which resulted in 18 savory shanks.

I am currently 0/51 for d.ring. :/

This is stupid. I don't even consider d.ring farming to be content.