Alexandrites to be stacked as 100 pieces just like Dynamis coins, please, dear SE?

For those who are not very determined and may change their mind, it would be really nice to have the option to save alexandrites as stacks of 100 pieces. I see no reason not to introduce this. We are simply forced to maintain a mule to store alexandrite unless we trade them all as we get them.

I can't give you puppy eyes for you to do this, SE but it would be a very nice quality of life addition to the game and you will hear nice words from us... You know you want to do this.

No thanks. Anything that increases the demand for alexandrite from players who haven't even flagged the quest (and may never) is a bad thing. If you're dedicated, make it work. If not, leave the alexandrite market to those who are serious about mythic.

In case someone is farming but not so sure about completing a mythic, hoarding them wouldn't really make any difference. The source is infinite, so I can't see how it would raise demand from them.

Also, it actually sounds a bit greedy to speak against such a quality of life addition in that context... just saying.

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Originally Posted by Edyth

No thanks. Anything that increases the demand for alexandrite from players who haven't even flagged the quest (and may never) is a bad thing. If you're dedicated, make it work. If not, leave the alexandrite market to those who are serious about mythic.

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You srs bro?

Selfishness aside, Making them stack to 100 isn't going to suddenly create an influx of people looking to spend hundreds of millions on a Mythic, if anything it will decrease the storage woes of those who are serious about it. Not every Mythic owner start collecting Alex when @ the Alex stage, most buy and store it well before they're at that stage.

I've a mule appropriately named Alexandriteman. He sits in Jeuno, I plan to raise his fame, and his entire purpose in life is to hold one thing, Alexandrite. The only other items that will ever grace his inventory are Beits for when I need them to upgrade to 119 and my items for 99ing/Glowing my Mythic. I'd love to not need him, or at very least not need to upgrade his inventory just to hold all of my Alexandrite more easily.

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Originally Posted by Demonjustin

I've a mule appropriately named Alexandriteman. He sits in Jeuno, I plan to raise his fame, and his entire purpose in life is to hold one thing, Alexandrite. The only other items that will ever grace his inventory are Beits for when I need them to upgrade to 119 and my items for 99ing/Glowing my Mythic. I'd love to not need him, or at very least not need to upgrade his inventory just to hold all of my Alexandrite more easily.

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You only need to do 1 mog entrance quest to be able to do all 10 gobbiebag quests.

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Originally Posted by detlef

You only need to do 1 mog entrance quest to be able to do all 10 gobbiebag quests.

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Good to know. :o

100 pieces were capable of being used for other purposes. They also had to be turned in all at once. Alexandrite can be traded in as soon as you got it. For "serious" mythic makers this should be nothing to worry about. For those having trouble committing, maybe you should get off the fence about it.

I really don't understand resistance to this idea. You're not well explaining the issue with it.

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Originally Posted by Demonjustin

I really don't understand resistance to this idea. You're not well explaining the issue with it.

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Me neither, it isn't only about those who are not fully committed too. There are people who starts collecting them before getting all of the required titles. Empathy is hard, I guess.

The commitment argument is a bunch of BS in my opinion anyways...

I have no intention of making a mythic but I fully support this suggestion.

Greetings,

Since Alexandrite can be handed over to an NPC for the Mythic quest, we do not have any plans at the moment to make them stack.

Problem there is theirs alot of folks having to store alex because of alot of content like einherjar is still 6 man min, theirs still assaults which cant be soloed, theirs still nyzul isle, and when they eventually get to the npc they'll have prolly just gained 100 free inventory spaces, whereas with a relic, your looking at 4 currency stacks, thats it, Is their no way to be able to bring the storing of alex to stage 1 mythic? and also is their no way of creating a system with the system of beastmen seals where you can store / retrieve alex? as 30k is alot, thats like 3 relics worth of alex. =/

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

Greetings,

Since Alexandrite can be handed over to an NPC for the Mythic quest, we do not have any plans at the moment to make them stack.

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Booo, only 3 posts and you are delivering the bad news! If you had a measure in place to let players take the alex off the NPC, this would be valid, but that isn't possible. The whole quest line needs a rework for QoL changes. You can't even see what weapon you have on the npc and working on w/o annoyance, you have to trade them the same weapon you *think* they have and it won't let you. Otherwise you are in the dark about what you are working on, you can't check what you've turned in either from what I recall.

How about having the NPC be able to return the currency, like seal/crest/ancient Beastcoin NPCs can?

If they made alex convertible to 100pieces, you'd see your alex prices go up since it would be far easier to hoard/resell it before suffering inventory pressure that forces many people to sell it off and makes it a buyer's market.

Bazaar resellers don't generally bother with hoarding and trying to price fix alex because they cant corner the market due to the supply/storage demands, and the inability to convert it to 100pieces like dynamis money.

As someone who has made a alot of gil from playing the bazaar resell game with dyna money singles+100pieces,
allowing conversion of alex to 100 alexpieces would make alexandrite a far more volatile market that doesn't really benefit mythic makers.

Which basically means either we go through inventory hell, or we go through stock/price hell. How wonderful the 30,000 Alexandrite requirement looks. At the same time, no one is apparently willing to budge on that either since there's such a heated debate over it whenever it's brought up as multiple people fight to defend the 30,000 Alexandrite requirement as though removing it would damage the game in a way that could never be repaired.

Alexandrite is nothing more than one giant issue in the end. You can't remove it, you can't reduce it, you can't let it stack, you can't make supply really much better than it is without revamping the event with situational gear. It's all just a bunch of annoying in the end, nothing can be done to it without upsetting someone or breaking something it seems.

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Originally Posted by Draylo

Booo, only 3 posts and you are delivering the bad news!

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The new guy always gets the crappy tasks. It's the law of the workplace.

The developers are missing the point of this request. It's not "100,000 alexandrite are choking up our inventory and there's nothing we can do!" It's more like "100,000 alexandrite forces us to commit to a mythic weapon. We can't change our minds and resell the unused alexandrites, or change to a different mythic." Like with relic weapons sure you can't get your currency back if you, like, get to stage 3, but you could do what I did with my Spharai: compress all the farmed currency into 100 pieces and not turn them in until the last minute. I didn't turn in a single piece of relic currency until I had it all, and at that point it was only taking up 4 inventory slots. I always had the option to change my mind, maybe do a different relic, or maybe sell it and make a ton of gil. Alexandrites.... you're pretty much forced to turn it all in an see it through to the end or give up what you've turned in.

Not that I disagree with what's being asked, but maybe that commitment is part of the Mythic acquisition for that very reason, they only wanted people dedicated and committed to x job to complete it, not someone who's unsure of how to progress or what to get.

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Originally Posted by Malithar

Not that I disagree with what's being asked, but maybe that commitment is part of the Mythic acquisition for that very reason, they only wanted people dedicated and committed to x job to complete it, not someone who's unsure of how to progress or what to get.

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See the reason I call BS on the commitment argument is because I somewhat doubt there is a player more committed to RDM than I am and yet even I still refuse to turn in any of my Alexandrite until every other thing is done. If someone who plays nothing but one job and plays basically every day for 30+% of their day, spending almost 10~12 hours a day in farming just for the Alexandrite alone, isn't committed enough to do it, who will be?

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Originally Posted by Demonjustin

See the reason I call BS on the commitment argument is because I somewhat doubt there is a player more committed to RDM than I am and yet even I still refuse to turn in any of my Alexandrite until every other thing is done. If someone who plays nothing but one job and plays basically every day for 30+% of their day, spending almost 10~12 hours a day in farming just for the Alexandrite alone, isn't committed enough to do it, who will be?

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Then why don't you turn it in?

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Originally Posted by Demonjustin

See the reason I call BS on the commitment argument is because I somewhat doubt there is a player more committed to RDM than I am and yet even I still refuse to turn in any of my Alexandrite until every other thing is done. If someone who plays nothing but one job and plays basically every day for 30+% of their day, spending almost 10~12 hours a day in farming just for the Alexandrite alone, isn't committed enough to do it, who will be?

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As a fan of playing RDM, and making a 3rd mythic now, I already turned in my vorpal sword to start doing the journals and threw 20k pieces of alex down that qiqirn's throat.
I like more than 1 job, and some days i'm like ehhhh maybe I shoulda picked something else, but you can always make another mythic.

Just pull the trigger and commit to something, the reality is that people have more than 1 job they love and want a mythic for, which creates alot of angst when you create your 1st one because its alot of work.
I dunno, it feels like after making the 1st one, it wasnt so rough making another one.

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Originally Posted by Malithar

Then why don't you turn it in?

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For some people "because I might win a cat's eye."

Which seems insane, but go figure, I know THREE people who won one. Two in the last bonanza, in the same LS even.

(Amusingly none had started on a mythic.)

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Originally Posted by Malithar

Then why don't you turn it in?

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Because knowing SE, they will come out with a better weapon next week and you will wish that you could sell it all to someone who is building a weapon that is still relevant.

I've made a 4 Mythics over 3 characters, and I never turned a single alex in until I was finishing up just in case. In case of Cat's Eye. In case the total amount miraculously was reduced from 30k. In case I change my mind. In case something much better comes along and I want to switch gears and pursue something new. There are many logical reasons not to turn in anything until you've both finished the quest requirements and are 100% certain it's what you want to do.

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Originally Posted by Malithar

Then why don't you turn it in?

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I don't participate in bonanza so I can't really get a Cat's Eye, that's not my reason.

I more or less don't turn it in because I don't know if I want to finish it in the end. I'd love to make it, but as I do more in this game I enjoy it less, in time I fear I'll eventually quit and really the only reason I don't quit probably is I have many great friends in game and a relationship built on this game I don't wish to leave. If I were to at some point quit and it were before my Mythic was completed I'd like to have the Alexandrite to give to a friend or sell for gil to give to my friends. They have been there for me for so long and through all these many years, while it's only gil or Alex it'd still be nice to have something to give them one day if I did quit. Also I don't really like the idea of trading them in because for now they sort of feel like a sort of stock, if I need gil at some point and the price went up I can make profit or at least get gil returned to me when I need it so that I can buy something I need. For instance, the DW Belt that came out recently, if not for getting it yesterday I may have eventually delayed my Mythic and sold a few Alex to make 10M to buy it since I've not had a chance to really do the fight often.

In the end, trading them in doesn't really do much for me. If I keep them in my inventory I can use them for a few different things and have access to them all the same. If I trade them in, I lose them forever. No matter if it results in a Mythic or not, in the end I've lost those Alexandrite forever, so I'd rather keep my Alexandrite on me and be sure I can use them to their fullest until I'm done with them and can trade it all in rather than only a bit. It may seem like weird reasons, but they're my reasons. :x

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

Greetings,

Since Alexandrite can be handed over to an NPC for the Mythic quest, we do not have any plans at the moment to make them stack.

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Unless you change it so that we can withdraw Alexandrite from this NPC, and access it from the start of the quest, this is not a valid reason.
I had many thousands of Alexandrite by the time I had access to the NPC's services.

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Originally Posted by Demonjustin

It may seem like weird reasons, but they're my reasons. :x

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They're logical reasons no doubt, even agree with most of em. But this relates back to the commitment to see the mythic through. Again, not saying I agree with them not being able to be made into 100 piece stackables, but perhaps the commitment to not only the job, but to see the mythic through to it's completion, is what they want the process to involve. A "I have no regrets" sort of view.

Maybe we can prod Unelonborro one day to get some musings on it. ;)

We ought to at the very least, be able to combine 30,000 alexandrite into a cat's eye. Having an item that is not available anywhere in game annoys me. And that way, the "I already have a mythic so you have to suffer" crowd are happy because you have to "commit" all the way to 30k alexandrite, but at least then you get your damned inventory back.

Honest truth is SE wants you suckers to pay the for extra accounts to hold all that loot.

I would seriously pay twice what I pay for mules for item slots that I could access from my main account. Even if it meant some tedious ish like using the delivery box.