I've been hearing rumors that a level 75 cap is going to be put on abby

Can anyone confirm this?

This is how some rumors start, Why don't you just ask this question from the source where you're getting your info from, there is your answer.

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Originally Posted by Krashport

This is how some rumors start, Why don't you just ask this question from the source where you're getting your info from, there is your answer.

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This ^.

Besides, upping the minimum level to enter abyssea now, almost 2 years after it was first released, is indeed like shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted, like someone else so eloquently put it in another thread.

Please understand that the whole idea of this game has changed, now it's insta speed level to 99 so you can go back and learn the job and do all the fun stuffs that has become the main bread and butter of this game. Gear collection is what this game has turned into now, not taking months to level just one job to 99. I know people said you don't really learn your job properly this way, but you never really learn the job properly by doing your old school normal party anyway, its the same whackaton mob everybody kungfu fighting, which will be very apparent when you take a bunch of aby newbie to NM events where they all wiped feeding tp to the mob.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

Can anyone confirm this?

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if i was able to i would be like the first person to show it! if that happen so many people would be crying because they cant leech abby anymore.lol

They wont do it now, people abused it enough. If anything the cap would only be added for the two new jobs, though very unlikely.

yes in short, this is nothing more than a wish of people that want the olden days back in exp, it will never happen now. And even if it did, it would hardly prevent everybody already having almost every job at 99 by now. So talk about 4 years too late.

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Originally Posted by nyheen

if i was able to i would be like the first person to show it! if that happen so many people would be crying because they cant leech abby anymore.lol

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/rolls eyes They could still leech 75-99 and 30 merits IF this rumor were true. They could still leech 1-75 outside Abyssea. Why are you so concerned about how someone else levels? You have a choice about who you play with. If you find that someone isn't up to your standards, you have options.

I don't think people realize that outside of abyssea, with chains and exp rings so commonplace now. One can get 1k EXP off of one mob kill once the chain builds, upward of 2k at a certain point.

My LS has recently taken to doing old-school parties for the fun and walk down memory lane. Jumped from 12 to 35 still in just one night. All the way to 50 and 60 in another day; now they're getting together AF.

lol...........

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Originally Posted by Komori

I don't think people realize that outside of abyssea, with chains and exp rings so commonplace now. One can get 1k EXP off of one mob kill once the chain builds, upward of 2k at a certain point.

My LS has recently taken to doing old-school parties for the fun and walk down memory lane. Jumped from 12 to 35 still in just one night. All the way to 50 and 60 in another day; now they're getting together AF.

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When you can do this AFK it'll be useful. But when you can pay to stand around doing nothing, get the money back in cruor, and then cap skills in a shorter time than it'd take you to level otherwise it will never be done by the majority.

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Originally Posted by Tamoa

This ^.

Besides, upping the minimum level to enter abyssea now, almost 2 years after it was first released, is indeed like shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted, like someone else so eloquently put it in another thread.

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I admire your ability to quote very intelligent people :)

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Originally Posted by Komori

I don't think people realize that outside of abyssea, with chains and exp rings so commonplace now. One can get 1k EXP off of one mob kill once the chain builds, upward of 2k at a certain point.

My LS has recently taken to doing old-school parties for the fun and walk down memory lane. Jumped from 12 to 35 still in just one night. All the way to 50 and 60 in another day; now they're getting together AF.

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this is what iam talking about. would be nice if people stop leeching/afking so it can be more pts going on in them camp area again. miss seeing 10-70+ camps all over the places

Would make empys pretty hard to get. They could just adjust experience rates instead.

if they add back a old school grind to this game that would be the nail in the coffin for me for sure. I still have nightmares about the climb to 75 in 2003/4 it wasn't fun or useful at all the game is totally different at endgame if you can't figure that out by now you need a doctor.

If you appreciate old school grind's here's what you do.

Go to Jueno, shout for member's for an old school ls and see how many ppl ask for pearl's. My guess you'll get a few people. Now I'm willing to bet most of those ppl that join have half there job's burn up to 99 already. Because of that you start losing member's early because key job's have already been level for group support and no one wants to gimp down for the sake of the party so others can level. Next, while the shell is grinding away hard everyday trying to get up to 99, every one else will be knee deep in end game content that will probably cut your attendance in half when your so call old schooler's cut out of your 6 to 12 hour grind party to go join them. You'll lose even more when there's not enough ppl to put a complete party together when other's have time. And even more will leave because the other guy's left and there's no one left to talk too.

Anyways no one would want the old school grind cram down their throat because some one else is all nostalgic. Please take this idea and bury it under a rock.

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by HimuraKenshyn

if they add back a old school grind to this game that would be the nail in the coffin for me for sure. I still have nightmares about the climb to 75 in 2003/4 it wasn't fun or useful at all the game is totally different at endgame if you can't figure that out by now you need a doctor.

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Amen.

Really, how many people who long for the "good old days" actually experienced them? I mean the 5k per hour, over a million XP to get to level 75, XPing in KRT or Moon "good old days". People who leveled before colibri parties and level sync didn't actually know how to play their job better, there were plenty of Red Mages full-timing Wise gear, people with terrible weapons, people with under-leveled or useless sub jobs, people who refused to use macros to swap gear for weapon skills, mages that didn't have all of their spells, etc. None of this is new, the only difference is that now people aren't limited to not knowing how to play one job, they have the freedom to now know how to play 5 or 10 or 20 jobs.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

Can anyone confirm this?

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Starting your own rumor doesn't mean it's going to circulate.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

Starting your own rumor doesn't mean it's going to circulate.

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bumped for truth

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Originally Posted by Septimus

Amen.

Really, how many people who long for the "good old days" actually experienced them? I mean the 5k per hour, over a million XP to get to level 75, XPing in KRT or Moon "good old days". People who leveled before colibri parties and level sync didn't actually know how to play their job better, there were plenty of Red Mages full-timing Wise gear, people with terrible weapons, people with under-leveled or useless sub jobs, people who refused to use macros to swap gear for weapon skills, mages that didn't have all of their spells, etc. None of this is new, the only difference is that now people aren't limited to not knowing how to play one job, they have the freedom to now know how to play 5 or 10 or 20 jobs.

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I don't think anybody longs for the lower xp rate at all. Instead, it was more the co-operation of the party to kill a mob. Now, it seems that half of the alliance is leeching xp (either trying to hide or by arrangement with the leader) and everybody else is soloing mobs. Personally, it doesn't feel like a party at all, just a group of soloers that happen to be teamed up. And yet, while leveling thf, people still moved out of the way when I attempted to trick attack, so that part is the same.

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Originally Posted by Xantavia

I don't think anybody longs for the lower xp rate at all. Instead, it was more the co-operation of the party to kill a mob. Now, it seems that half of the alliance is leeching xp (either trying to hide or by arrangement with the leader) and everybody else is soloing mobs. Personally, it doesn't feel like a party at all, just a group of soloers that happen to be teamed up. And yet, while leveling thf, people still moved out of the way when I attempted to trick attack, so that part is the same.

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This absolutely. Keep the insane xp but bring back the party. I think mobs with lots of HP that hit like a truck and give 1500xp each could work.

Don't get me wrong I really did like old school leveling and the need for "almost" every job out there but times have changed and it's change that people are affraid of. I would like instead of bringing back the old ways maybe some new systems where all jobs can be used without segregation. Develop content that is lvl 75+ cap or even something like 90+ cap were get added benefits from skillchains and all the old style play but not as limited in choice. Either way there is no going back now like so many ppl pointed out already. Setting a cap at 75 would have been good when aby first came out but now is way to late.

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Originally Posted by Xantavia

I don't think anybody longs for the lower xp rate at all. Instead, it was more the co-operation of the party to kill a mob. Now, it seems that half of the alliance is leeching xp (either trying to hide or by arrangement with the leader) and everybody else is soloing mobs. Personally, it doesn't feel like a party at all, just a group of soloers that happen to be teamed up. And yet, while leveling thf, people still moved out of the way when I attempted to trick attack, so that part is the same.

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Kick the leechers problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Cowardlybabooon

This absolutely. Keep the insane xp but bring back the party. I think mobs with lots of HP that hit like a truck and give 1500xp each could work.

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You'd level so fast the party wouldn't last that long anyway better off just joining a abyssea alliance.

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Originally Posted by Kuvo

Don't get me wrong I really did like old school leveling and the need for "almost" every job out there but times have changed and it's change that people are affraid of. I would like instead of bringing back the old ways maybe some new systems where all jobs can be used without segregation. Develop content that is lvl 75+ cap or even something like 90+ cap were get added benefits from skillchains and all the old style play but not as limited in choice. Either way there is no going back now like so many ppl pointed out already. Setting a cap at 75 would have been good when aby first came out but now is way to late.

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I guess you have never done VW...

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Originally Posted by Cowardlybabooon

This absolutely. Keep the insane xp but bring back the party. I think mobs with lots of HP that hit like a truck and give 1500xp each could work.

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Level synced VW, make it happen SE.

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Originally Posted by Xantavia

I don't think anybody longs for the lower xp rate at all. Instead, it was more the co-operation of the party to kill a mob. Now, it seems that half of the alliance is leeching xp (either trying to hide or by arrangement with the leader) and everybody else is soloing mobs. Personally, it doesn't feel like a party at all, just a group of soloers that happen to be teamed up. And yet, while leveling thf, people still moved out of the way when I attempted to trick attack, so that part is the same.

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People trying to leech in parties is nothing new. People tried it all the time before the days of Abyssea, the difference is that back then people had less qualms about actually kicking the person who was not contributing and getting a replacement.

Also, people didn't cooperate before Abyssea; I was convinced when I got THF to level 15 that the sound of Sneak Attack unconsciously makes people run circles around the mob, and this was in the CoP times. Ask any BLU that leveled the job the old-fashioned way if they think that the sound of Chain Affinity unconsciously makes melees hold onto their TP and use it to ruin the BLU's skillchains- I am sure that most would agree. This is an example of people wearing their Nostalgia Goggles, the "good old days" were rarely as good as people like to think they were.

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Originally Posted by svengalis

I guess you have never done VW...

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Oh didn't know VW was a system for leveling and EXP. As other endgame content you would be right but as for what i was saying is for normal exp leveling party situations. Endgame is endgame. I highly doubt anyone got a party together to go level up on Genbu.

Nostalgia moments more than likely gone forever... Remember leveling Black Mage just so I could do some great Mega burst damage on Skillchains... Fun Times gone but not forgotten.

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Originally Posted by Caspin

Nostalgia moments more than likely gone forever... Remember leveling Black Mage just so I could do some great Mega burst damage on Skillchains... Fun Times gone but not forgotten.

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Yes the Dying art of the Skillchain + Magic Burst. Would be nice to see the system revitalized.

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Originally Posted by Kuvo

I highly doubt anyone got a party together to go level up on Genbu.

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Genbu gave like 10 exp, not the 20k or w/e the hell you can get from VW.

if youre hearing those rumors, you should probably stop talking to retarded people.

If this were to happen, GoV partys would just become more popular, people would pay to leach in these partys I'm sure because leaders would let them, and almost nothing would change. GoV is what kills any chance of leveling the old style that was actually somewhat fun to level.

GoV is fine. It's a little easy, and not as fun as old style levelling, but then old style levelling was never fun in the first place; its only nostalgia which makes people think it was. If you really want to try old style levelling, DO IT. There's so many nostalgia junkies in game talking about how they'd like to go back and do Bhaflau, Khazam, Qufim, Vallurm, it wouldn't be hard. But no one ever does because they'd rather level the new way.

In reply to this thread. I'd love it if they changed the cap to 75 but they'd have to introduce interesting mid level, levelling opportunities. 1-15 FoV is fine, and 15-30 GoV is fine. But who really wants to just to GoV till 75. That really would be far less interesting than old style levelling.

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Originally Posted by Jackstin

GoV is fine. It's a little easy, and not as fun as old style levelling, but then old style levelling was never fun in the first place; its only nostalgia which makes people think it was. If you really want to try old style levelling, DO IT. There's so many nostalgia junkies in game talking about how they'd like to go back and do Bhaflau, Khazam, Qufim, Vallurm, it wouldn't be hard. But no one ever does because they'd rather level the new way.

In reply to this thread. I'd love it if they changed the cap to 75 but they'd have to introduce interesting mid level, levelling opportunities. 1-15 FoV is fine, and 15-30 GoV is fine. But who really wants to just to GoV till 75. That really would be far less interesting than old style levelling.

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Its far less interesting to put keys in boxes for 10 hours while everyone in your partys kills things, but people do it alot. I think if a lv75 limit was put on abyssea people would just move to caves for GoV and hang out there for a while.

Man if old school leveling is considered fun I hate to see what Boredom and pain and frustration is to these people.

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Originally Posted by HimuraKenshyn

Man if old school leveling is considered fun I hate to see what Boredom and pain and frustration is to these people.

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^my response when someone mentions an oldschool pt^

they won't/can't the story line for abby starts @ 30. And one "mission" is to go in there and walk around. Plus there are fairly easy to do quests in abby. Such as the one in vunkrel inlet where u look @ a few eco places. (and its repeatable) If they cap it @ 75, they would have to change the cap you get the abby cs from.

and tbh >.> i really saw no difference from 5K an hr pts - abyssea leeching. it took the same amount of time if not longer in abby to get levels. then a "old school" party. In most cases u start from zero and base on lights can be 30min-an hr befor hitting the 200 exp a kill mark.

remember mobs outside of abby did get a exp increase. plus exp ring plus signet if in base world. plus add the fact fov and gov are on auto repeat so u can prob get the same amount of exp old school as u do in abby if u know good camps to kill fast. (and hey beats having a nm up ur bum or having to reget stones ever 3 hours)

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Originally Posted by Rosina

and tbh >.> i really saw no difference from 5K an hr pts - abyssea leeching. it took the same amount of time if not longer in abby to get levels. then a "old school" party. In most cases u start from zero and base on lights can be 30min-an hr befor hitting the 200 exp a kill mark.

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............what?

I actually had to create an account here to express how happy I am that you're back Rosina. Your particular brand of derp has been sorely missed from these forums.

Edit: This thread started with herp.