Limbus suggestion.

The way Dynamis is currently is an awesome idea. Suggestions where to implement the Limbus zones idea is where you have to kill certain mobs for a Item and when you get the item you then will be able to pop the boss with the item and get a rewarded chip. each zone has a chip you will collect. ABC's are done with !! triggers as with Dynamis. The AF items can be dropped from chests that mobs drop like Abyssea where you can guess to open the chest or use Gil to buy keys from the guy that used to sell the cleaner used to enter limbus before. TE can be moved to a Mob on each stage of the multiple stage floors and you can change the floors to have teleporters to and from the other floors. A suggestion for the BLM zone would be killing the normal mobs for an item that will spawn the NM from a ??? that will drop part of the pop for the ZB for the Chip.

The general Idea is nice...I would love renewed Limbus with harder mobs.... but....

keep the silly dumb triggers where they are k? Keep all that Abys stuff outa the system. I like Abysea right where it is...

FAR AWAY FROM ME!

Trigger is really up to how they implement it. Abyssea trigger system was fine, Void Watch sucks and Dynamis is pretty much /DNC or GTFO.

a tipp abys system is a prime exampl of job Favorism.
As is Dyna.
In my opinion Voidwach trigger are the only 'fair' ones BUT i hate them all anyway.....

I agree, the !! system has good and bad points but in all I would very much like to see some revamp or additions to Limbus. Maybe even some new gear upgrades much like the relics have now, you could get AF+2 with augments or even sea gear from Ix's and Jailers that you could upgrade and give more use to ABC too.
I do not think that any addition or revamp to said things should include any type of !! though, that would suck.

Limbus is fine as is, just allow us to enter once a day if anything.

Bumping this thread to deliver some information on Limbus. :)

In regards to the future of Limbus, the basic overall system will remain the same but we are planning to add a new route for high level players. Unlike the renewal of Dynamis, the general direction of this renewal will be more like an advanced expansion of Omega/Ultima.

We are working at full speed so that players can try this out on the test server so please wait just a little bit longer!

I have been waiting to see, what the news about this would bee.

Not sure if I like what will be coming; having my doubts.
I do hope something to be done with the re-entry time, the fishy touts!

Interested either way, whatever it is they may lay.

Please introduce the procing system to Limbus to yield more coins. :D

Are they considering using this to implement +2 gear for Artifact Armor?

<Yes, please.> :D

Hopefully you can BALANCE the effort/reward between new homam and new nashira so that you don't have awesome melee gear that's easy to get and mediocre mage gear that's a pain in the ass to get.

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Originally Posted by Oscar71

Please introduce the procing system to Limbus to yield more coins. :D

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Urge to troll... rising.

Procing?

What is 'procing'? Okay, I may not have what it takes to 'troll', but yeah, I never liked that term, and still don't (by the by, there is no need to tell me most of the community use it, it does not mean I have to). :Ð

Does Limbus really need a weakness targeting system and/or would it make it more fun?

I don't think so. Unless they implement more uses for them coins, there are not many reasons to go after the coins for. In any case, I would hope an increase would not come from triggering weaknesses. It's already overused in my opinion. I would probably make all the Artifact Armour +1 if Sagheera did not have such a long wait on them, so when/if that gets improved upon, then I would also do this more with the coins in mind.

So no to that from me (as if it matters).

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

Are they considering using this to implement +2 gear for Artifact Armor?

<Yes, please.> :D

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They have mentioned not so long ago that they have no plans for this. ^^;

Could always change their minds, but I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by Oscar71

Please introduce the procing system to Limbus to yield more coins. :D

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Uhm the droprates are high.... also don't destroy another event by adding Procs >_<

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Originally Posted by Dragoy

I have been waiting to see,
what the news about this would bee.

Not sure if I like what will be coming;
having my doubts.
I do hope something
to be done with the re-entry time, the fishy touts!

Interested either way,
whatever it is they may lay.

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Oh I see what you did thar.

Savlyn,

Purely accidental!


Also to add on what Eri said, and to combine it with my post a little, the drop-rates, considering how many uses there are for them coins today, are rather high by FFXI-standards.

If they are adding something, or some things, it could be a different story.
It's all about balan<beep>.

I do wish there would be more chance for the AF upgrade items actually, as I never get things I'm after. The game somehow knows what I want every time.

Prime example: Koga Hakama.

I never got them while doing Dynamis the old way more or less casually during years. If I didn't attend a run, they would usually be looted at least twice. Just the other day, however, while doing my trio/quatro run, I found 3 if them, in a row.

It's quite amazing sometimes what the /random of this game is capable of just to say 'ha-ha' to ya!

PLEASE let us augment old homam/nashira gear using synergy! Instead of making it drop from New-Ultima and New-Omega let those drop new armor/weapons but let us augment old gear the same way we were able to augment sky god gear; since homam/nashira is the equivalent of the sky god set for the jobs that couldn't use sky god gear.

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Originally Posted by Eri

Uhm the droprates are high.... also don't destroy another event by adding Procs >_<

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Please don't destroy another event by not allowing us to take only 2 other people! We need to continue to exclude everyone!

Seriously, staggering didn't ruin anything lol, but I do guess for some people it sucks doing things with more than 2 people =\

Do not add staggers. Procs were a retarded system after abyssea. Nothing like being forced to bring more people than needed, on jobs they don't want to play, so we can get drops we could have had without procs if the retarded system were left to die in abyssea.

Limbus was the perfect event. Please do not fuck it up with procs like you did in dynamis or retarded "luck" based progression like you did in nyzul.

Re-entry time @ JP Midnight please! This is all I ask.

Though I'm 90% certain that Oscar was trolling, I don't see any harm in adding a proc system, as long as with no proc the drop rate is unaffected from what it is now. That way you can still go and do the content exactly the same as you would if there were no procs, and if you accidentally get a proc? Bonus!

Ancient beastcoins are worthless enough as it is (2~5k each on my server), so if they do make them easier to get then I'd hope that they'll also add some new uses for them.

I'd like to see +2 added for AF armor armor. Also some way to enhance Nashira / Homam, maybe via +1 / +2 upgrades that bring them to lv 90+.

Please don't screw limbus up, was an amazing event. Combined "dungeon crawling" with "mega boss fight" where you got loot from the dungeon and from the end boss. I'd like to see additional copies of the zones added so that multiple groups can do a single area. I didn't like "procs" but I absolutely do not want a low man group doing limbus. Limbus zones are locked when you go in, so a three or four man group can hold everyone else up while they slowly farm for an hour or so.

Limbus was pretty much designed for lowmanning. It rewards a group of 18 for having the ability to make 3-4 groups of 4-6 members and farm multiple zones so you can pop the boss every other run instead of once every two weeks of farming. Instead of bitching about smart/good people being smart/good, you should complain about them not making multiple copies of reservable areas. Forcing people to drag along dead weight and thus earn less per head just because you hate low man groups is stupid.

Don't fuck up new Limbus like new nyzul. Luck has no place in a well designed event, and neither do procs for that matter.

No more weakness proc systems please for this or any other event going forward. They just ruin events and make for unnecessary time wasted waiting on a weakness trigger.

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Originally Posted by Unleashhell

No more weakness proc systems please for this or any other event going forward. They just ruin events and make for unnecessary time wasted waiting on a weakness trigger.

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I think it's fine to have proc systems for some battle types. It adds another element to the game other than ZERG ZERG ZERG KILL KILL KILL.

It would be great to see proc's which actually required skill, party coordination, but also allowed for greater job flexibility. Examples: getting a level 3 skillchain, landing 2 magic bursts in a row, stunning a specific TP move, multiple players stacking abilities for a combo attack, etc.

Yeah. I know it'll never happen.

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Originally Posted by Bleu_Lakshmi

I think it's fine to have proc systems for some battle types. It adds another element to the game other than ZERG ZERG ZERG KILL KILL KILL.

It would be great to see proc's which actually required skill, party coordination, but also allowed for greater job flexibility. Examples: getting a level 3 skillchain, landing 2 magic bursts in a row, stunning a specific TP move, multiple players stacking abilities for a combo attack, etc.

Yeah. I know it'll never happen.

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That would just lock everyone into SAM...

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Originally Posted by Return1

Limbus was pretty much designed for lowmanning. It rewards a group of 18 for having the ability to make 3-4 groups of 4-6 members and farm multiple zones so you can pop the boss every other run instead of once every two weeks of farming. Instead of bitching about smart/good people being smart/good, you should complain about them not making multiple copies of reservable areas. Forcing people to drag along dead weight and thus earn less per head just because you hate low man groups is stupid.

Don't fuck up new Limbus like new nyzul. Luck has no place in a well designed event, and neither do procs for that matter.

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"Low Man" groups of 3~4 are really just two people dual boxing WHM / BRD / BLM mules. Limbus is a locked zone, the moment you enter you can stay for over an hour while everyone else must wait outside. SE either needs to make multiple instances / zones, or ensure two people farming with their mules, or a soloist MNK with his WHM mule don't lock out the rest of the server's population for hours on end.

Hey guys! Director Mizuki Ito posted some details about the expansion to Limbus that I wanted to share.

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Originally Posted by Mizuki_Ito

Limbus Expansion
Hi, this is Ito, the director.

You may be wondering why I’m posting such a thing on a Friday, again, but I thought that instead of having the weekend start without saying anything, I wanted to give you guys a heads up on the 2 most important points.

• Battle Balance
  Up to 18 players can enter at once, but we’re balancing this content so that it can be beaten by 6 players.
  　
• Rewards
  We plan on redoing existing Homam/Nashira gear and preparing new Homam/Nashira gear. However, the graphics will remain the same. Sorry!

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Limbus is basically beatable by 6 people.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We plan on redoing existing Homam/Nashira gear and preparing new Homam/Nashira gear. However, the graphics will remain the same. Sorry!

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It might be just me, but people's $12.95 deserve better when it comes to top endgame content. I think everyone will be dissapointed when served yet another recolored area and copypasted armor. If the company can't afford to hire a graphic artist for new content, how about making a contest for new graphics or something like that? It would be more useful than all the screenshot/mooglelaw events bundled together.
Oh, and make it glow, please. :)

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Originally Posted by Zirael

It might be just me, but people's $12.95 deserve better when it comes to top endgame content. I think everyone will be dissapointed when served yet another recolored area and copypasted armor. If the company can't afford to hire a graphic artist for new content, how about making a contest for new graphics or something like that? It would be more useful than all the screenshot/mooglelaw events bundled together.
Oh, and make it glow, please. :)

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Contest idea is cool but Homam and Nashira gear are one of the best looking sets in game and I believe many ppl would gladly wear it again.

Graphics not getting changed is hardly a surprise, Nyzul 2.0 gear looks the same as 1.0 too.

I liked the look of homam/nashira myself and would gladly wear it again as well.

i liked the look of the gear but still could do with some changes i mean come on se its not even that hard to design gear i would do it for free.

Dunno why people are worried about the appearance when the real concern should be that fewer than half of the jobs can equip homam/nashira.

More specifically, the jobs that can use Homam/Nashira are precisely the jobs that cannot equip the Sky God set, so there's nothing wrong with the # of jobs that can wear the sets. Since they made some pretty badass sky god gear augments, I hope they let us Augment existing Homam/Nashira to similar potency as well.

Not quite, as SCH, DNC, PUP, and COR can't use Homam, Nashira, or the sky set. Even in this day and age where people have everything leveled, it doesn't make sense to make a single event cater to fewer than half the jobs out there.

Seeing as those sets were created before those jobs, it makes sense. They can make new gear for those jobs elsewhere but if they let like WAR and SAM use Homam gear, they better let DRG and DRK use Genbu Kabuto and Byakko Haidate.

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Originally Posted by Ophannus

Seeing as those sets were created before those jobs, it makes sense.

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There were lots of sets created before those jobs were added that those jobs can wear.

Except for the haste, which I don't have inventory space to carry around anyway, nashira gear is pretty much junk. I was always jealous that my DNC can't wear homam pants though -_-

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Originally Posted by Fredjan

Graphics not getting changed is hardly a surprise, Nyzul 2.0 gear looks the same as 1.0 too.

I liked the look of homam/nashira myself and would gladly wear it again as well.

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No one is surprised but it still sucks. They should at least pallet swap it. Put the skin in photo shop and do difference clouds or invert or something. New awesome gear that looks like old gear is a let down. At least homam/nashira isn't anywhere near as ugly as nyzul stuff but it clashes really badly with the design styles of abyssea gear and beyond. Call me a queen but I like to look good while I do good damage.

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Originally Posted by Ophannus

Seeing as those sets were created before those jobs, it makes sense.

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it totally make sense that BLU can equip BOTH limbus set, cor can wear W.abju set, pup nothing older than ToAU

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

No one is surprised but it still sucks. They should at least pallet swap it. Put the skin in photo shop and do difference clouds or invert or something. New awesome gear that looks like old gear is a let down. At least homam/nashira isn't anywhere near as ugly as nyzul stuff but it clashes really badly with the design styles of abyssea gear and beyond. Call me a queen but I like to look good while I do good damage.

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lol
askar is basically an recollored homam