I was trying to get my level 91 rdm to level 95 however I seek for 2 hours and no invites. All I see is people shouting to sell FC leech spots for 600 or 700k. Which I don't want to pay that much gil just to exp.
What happened to this game anyway when exp revolves around paying someone 700k to sit there do nothing and leech.
Lack of exp parties
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10-27-2011, 02:41 PMZumiLack of exp parties
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10-27-2011, 06:32 PMbrowolf
you can double up xp in campaign battle if you assess and retag in the middle of a battle.
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10-27-2011, 06:50 PMTsukino_Kaji
No one hardly ever invites a rdm to XP unless they're desperate to fill holes. Due to the fact that you don't need enffebles outside of sleepga, it's rare to see a rdm with good dmg output and they're curing is lacking.
I suggest the 'ol bait and switch. Cap your merits and then switch when you come back. Works wonders. -
10-27-2011, 08:10 PMHaldarn
Have you headed out to Bluffalo/Uleg, Dolls/Altepa & Crabs/Grauberg Dominion Ops XP camps? They're usually constantly rolling through pt members (at least on Shiva) and ppl let anyone join the super-XP fest if you turn up and there's a space (else waiting 15-30 mins for one of the 18 to leave).
Alternatively I got in on a FC party you were describing for free when they were looking for a Key whore, which was a little more engaging than just standing there and soaking it up. -
10-27-2011, 08:21 PMTsukino_KajiAnd free if you don't count cruor as money. Last time I did this for some random superfluous job, I found that you actualy lose cruor in the prosess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haldarn
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10-27-2011, 08:30 PMHaldarnI'm talking crap. It was a BLU doing the AoE kills with capped azure so there was more than enough Cruor in the chests to pay for the keys. Sorry for being a 'tard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
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10-27-2011, 08:35 PMTsukino_Kaji
Was in a "shocking whisker" party myself. It's the same thing as fell cleave. People call blu burn FC anyway. But yeah, I spent more cruor then what I gained, even with a third of the cests being "princely."
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10-27-2011, 08:46 PMHaldarnWait... So hang on... I was using keys to generate enough Cruor so that the 16 ppl who had paid 500k for a spot made all their money back in Cruor... And it cost me Cruor...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
I HATE YOU MATHS.
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10-27-2011, 08:58 PMJuri_Licious
Maybe i'm misreading the post but just waltz up to the Abyssea Worm location and put on seek and you should get a invite.
Never have issues with this on Asura. -
10-27-2011, 10:14 PMZyla420actually, believe it or not, being a Key whore even costs you gil now (not talkin bout cruror either). multiple times have i seen ppl shout for a key whore spot, and i reply to these shouts to lvl a subjob i hate lvling only for said person shouting to reply with "how much" or "make an offer"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Haldarn
wtf i'm supposed to pay twice for 20 lvls? imo if you're using your cruror to buy keys for a leech spot, that should be the extent of what you pay. if i'm payin gil i'm going afk plain and simple. paying gil + keying is just bullshit -
10-27-2011, 10:28 PMMirage
Just head out to an exp area and do like /sh party can i have it? please invite me. it works for me 80% of the time, if i just give it a bit of time.
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10-27-2011, 10:55 PMZarcheryIs that what that was? I've been seeing some /yell constructed of indecipherable autotranslator gibberish, but I couldn't figure out what was going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
Still I don't know what you're talking about. I've never had trouble getting an Abyssea party. My wait times are generally pretty low, and I frequently see /yells for them. Sometimes there are just bad days. -
10-27-2011, 10:57 PMZarchery
Also what does "FC" stand for? I can't figure it out.
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10-27-2011, 10:57 PMGreatguardian
Fell Cleave.
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10-28-2011, 03:14 AMTohihroyu
Could be the job too, flag up on drk & get nothing till one of my friends gets me in a Doll Dom Op, flag up on drg & get an invite asap to Buffalo's in Uleguerand Range .-.
Yeah yeah I know loldrk loldrk bla bla bla -
10-28-2011, 03:33 AMMirage
If you're just seeking passively, i'm sure your current job might make a big difference in terms of invites, but this is why you shouldn't seek passively. Even if your job isn't the best in the game, if you're actually right next to the party whenever they're not 18/18, people are much more likely to just get whoever can come first, rather than waiting for an unknown period of time until they can get their hands on very best ultra super turbo DPS class.
Run out to exp locations, flag up, make a shout every few minutes, /tell one of the party leaders, look for anyone in the party who you might have partied with recently for other purposes and ask if they can get you in. -
10-28-2011, 04:39 AMMirabelle
GoV is also available to you. Leeches in Bostinuex Oubliette can be productive even at 90-95 since they are still EP.
I had no problem getting 6 90 jobs to 95 fairly quickly between dom ops, GoV, campaign. Hell WHM got levelled up just doing empy NM runs. -
10-28-2011, 05:41 AMEurell
You sat there 2 hours and it never occurred to you to make a party?
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10-28-2011, 07:22 AMLeonlionheart
You can get into any party simply by /sea'ing the zone you want, looking for non-capped or anon party leaders, then sending them a tell "Experience points Party Can I have it? (Your role here) You can have this."
Helps if you don't suck at your role and have something to show for it, i.e. emp ws's etc. However I've gotten into exp parties as PLD just saying "Healing Magic Do you need it?" Use atmas that a WHM would use, and even PLD can mainheal a good alliance in exp. -
10-28-2011, 07:58 AMSoranika
Generally what I've noticed that unless they're trying to fill in spots, people starting exp parties typically do not use the search function to gather members en mass.
But there's several suggestions to help. Go to any of the popular camps, usually worms camp at La Theine and open your party flag if there's a party there. There's also new gov in areas that you can solo on with your NPC if you choose and gain some decent exp with will rely solely on your own effort. There's also besiege, in which they've pretty much quadrupled EXP gain, though if your on for it. Campaign battles are very good for exp, you can double your exp by getting an evaluation and new tags fairly easy, as suggested. And if you're in an ls that does abyssea events (and let you go RDM) or vw, exp gain is fairly fast there too.
There are serveral people who've decided to level though means other an abyssea shout group from 91 to 95, so it's possible. -
10-28-2011, 08:40 PMPuck
Wow, a lot of you are giving terrible advice. Not Mirabelle, though.
Bostaunieux Oubliette.
The 2 hours you spent sitting around seeking party could've got you a couple levels there. I recently leveled RDM from 45 to 95 in a week, mostly through Grounds of Valor alliances. Go to where an alliance is already burning pages, put your flag up, and shout politely for an invite. You'll be invited in minutes.
The most popular spots are Gusgen Mines, Crawler's Nest, and Bostaunieux Oubliette, in order by level. With Grounds of Valor you can go from under 20 to 95 in weeks without ever having to leech or sit around seeking a party. -
10-28-2011, 08:55 PMHaldarnI'm sorry, but with Dom Ops in Abyssea - Altepa I went from 45 to 95 in 14 hours, and no-one minded that I afk'd for two and a half hours of that to do a (small) bit of RL (but hence wasn't getting 5k/2min from Dom Ops pages). How is recommending Dom Ops terrible advice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Puck
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10-28-2011, 11:11 PMZarchery
I levelled BLM from 91 to 95 without a single Abyssea group. I'm not so sure how I did it.
Right now I'm trying to level WAR, and the XP rate from Campaign battles is pretty good. You can do it while seeking passively. -
10-29-2011, 12:03 AMSpankWustlerBehold, my roll!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leonlionheart
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10-29-2011, 01:28 AMZarchery
I'm kinda curious where people paying to get into passive XP parties got their gil in the first place. If they can't be bothered to XP on their own, I can't see how they'd be bothered to acquire gil on their own, unless it involves a credit card and certain outside third parties.
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10-29-2011, 02:08 AMMirage
That's quite a jump to conclusions you have there. Someone who's got several millions from legitimate sources and nothing to use it on can't possibly be interested in leeching a few of their jobs? I know people who has gotten everything they would ever want to get out of abyssea, and are sitting on close to 10 million cruor. They don't have anything to use it on except selling brews, or choco-blinker it all.
The net cost of an hour of leeching is probably closer to 50k rather than 100k anyway, assuming the party manages to rack up a decent amount of cruor along with the exp. -
10-29-2011, 02:28 AMDrivont
Mmmmmm cinnamon roles!! Oh.... wait.... XD
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10-29-2011, 04:40 AMLeonlionheartslow your rollQuote:
Originally Posted by SpankWustler
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10-29-2011, 04:48 AMZagenI don't know why but I'm amazed at how people still find it hard to make gil in this era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarchery
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10-29-2011, 06:46 AMZarcheryI don't find it hard, but it's still a thing I actually have to interact with the computer to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zagen
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10-29-2011, 06:57 AMZagenI do too but I make gil why EXPing or farming pops in Abyssea which the majority of the player base is doing still as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarchery
Some are doing Dynamis zones for the relic armor they might be missing meaning currency for gil (assuming they spent the 5-10 minutes it takes to learn how to best farm new dynamis).
While farming for new scrolls doing new BCNMs you can get weapons/armor you don't need thus leading to more gil.
While farming for new scrolls/armor from WoE you can get dice which can be sold for good gil (up to 100k on my server again). Or if you're after the dice/coins you could be selling the scrolls/armor as you get them.
Also those people paying for leech parties generally walk away with enough Cruor to pay for the run if not more than that meaning that the run itself cost them nothing, at worst a fraction of what they paid up front.
This is the era where a lot of what you're doing makes you gil as a byproduct so why would you wonder how people are making gil to pay for leech parties? Maybe you're assuming if they're "lazy" enough to buy a leech spot for EXP they're lazy in every other aspect of the game. -
10-29-2011, 11:15 AMSvens1. Obtain 300k by any means you know (fishing, cruor conversion, AH, etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarchery
2. Pay 300k to get into a FC pt (make sure it's good with constant pulls, well-geared players, etc. before paying)
3. AFK
4. Use cruor obtained from FC to convert to gil (Good FCs can get the ~120k cruor necessary to recoup the 300k).
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10-29-2011, 12:28 PMTsukino_KajiYou just have to know where to fight and how to get into parties. Did loldrk 1-30 then 30-90 in less then 12 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puck
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10-29-2011, 02:10 PMAlhanelem
Outside of abyssea, basically all EXPing is either solo or duo/trio with a friend or two. No one has the time or patience to shout and search for a proper party to get good EXP.
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10-29-2011, 02:15 PMLeonlionheartWould also like to make it known that in a CW I did earlier this week we were getting about 64k cruor/hour. Charging at a rate of 100k/hour, you're making 69k per hour sitting there leeching exp (120k/hour~200k/hour exp). 6hours got level 30's from 33~78Quote:
Originally Posted by Svens
Edit: 69k/hour is net profit.