The new Bookburn thingy

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09-28-2011, 10:14 AM
Juri_Licious

The new Bookburn thingy

Thanks for adding it, it's way better than constantly going back and forth to the book each time.

Abyssea could use this.
09-28-2011, 03:47 PM
Zatias

It's nice indeed.

Rather comedic though that now it's even easier for a lvl1+ leech to sit somewhere safe while a high-lvl does all the killing. They don't even have to run back to the book or worry about chests. I saw this in Gustav Tunnel yesterday. XD

Just to be clear, I'm not complaining in the least. Running back to the book was just a pain in the ass and I'm glad they changed it.

I don't know if they'll add it to Abyssea ops though, seems like a preference kind of thing. If you don't mind running back and forth between the op and mobs, then Abyssea ops are for you! If you like a more classic experience without worrying about pyxis or ops, then Grounds of Valor is calling.
09-28-2011, 03:54 PM
slakyak

I haven't tried it since the changes but I'm planning a day of it today. Turning up and chucking your flag up sure beats trying for a leech spot in a Abby party though!
09-28-2011, 03:57 PM
Ladycandygem

It would definitely be nice to have in Abyssea. It would open up a lot more camps, rather than having everyone crowd into the couple of camp with an NPC next to the mobs.
09-28-2011, 06:04 PM
Mirage

The book stuff is definitely helpful and nice, but now that we have auto-repeat on them it really makes me wonder why they bothered making this additional system, when they could just have increased exp gain once again to achieve pretty much the same effect, just with a lot less work to do for the developers.

Again, I don't dislike books, it just seems like a roundabout way to fix the exp-outside-abyssea issue.
09-28-2011, 11:09 PM
Ryce

I tried out the new system for the first time 2 days ago. Love it. Beats the hell out of running back and forth between the book and the mobs. I played in Crawler's Nest, and we still only did page 1 near the entrance, but the possibility to go deeper is realistic now.

I think it's great that we can now simulate the "old school" traditional exp party set up and still get modern day exp. I don't miss the grind by any means, but I do miss the dynamic of a balanced, 6-person party working together to maximize returns. The auto-book lets you do that, but with much greater reward. Thanks SE. ^^

It would be epic in Dominion Ops.
09-29-2011, 06:40 AM
Andreja

The new repeat feature has made some GoV locations such as Gusgen AFK central. I've seen allot more people just sitting there doing nothing while still gaining a ton of xp. I really like the feature when it's used properly, but when someone decides to just sit and leech their way to lvl cap with zero effort, more people will have no idea how to do their job properly once they hit 95. I consider that practice the same as botting/autoing, and should definitely be discouraged with kicks from party leaders so that doesn't happen.
09-29-2011, 10:42 AM
Mirage

So tell the party leaders, then. Or make your own party where leeching isn't allowed.
09-30-2011, 01:34 AM
Andreja

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Originally Posted by Mirage

So tell the party leaders, then. Or make your own party where leeching isn't allowed.

You honestly think I didn't try that yet? They mainly ignore me, or give a smart ass comment. Honestly, the fact that anyone is allowing this type of behavior at all is baffling to me. I haven't seen this type of behavior in Crawler's Nest yet thankfully.
09-30-2011, 04:39 AM
Mirage

Yes, that was sort of my point. It's the leader's way or the highway. If you're the leader yourself, you get to decide. With page autorepeat and the new areas to do GoV in now, it shouldn't be too hard to find a good spot somewhere else with some persons that agree with you on the leeching issue.
09-30-2011, 04:49 AM
Economizer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreja

They mainly ignore me, or give a smart ass comment.

Sounds like a party leader who is either covering for a friend, or is getting paid gil to do it.
09-30-2011, 04:56 AM
Kaisha

Core/RoZ - 2003 Crab Fantasy XI
Early CoP - 2004 Arrow-burn Fantasy XI
Mid CoP - 2005 Rampage-burn Fantasy XI
Early ToA - 2006 Colibri Fantasy XI
Mid ToA/WoTG - 2007-2009 TP-burn Fantasy XI
Abyssea - 2010 Leech Fantasy XI
GoV adjustment - 2011 AFK Fantasy XI

I think that just about sums up my thoughts.
09-30-2011, 01:15 PM
svengalis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreja

The new repeat feature has made some GoV locations such as Gusgen AFK central. I've seen allot more people just sitting there doing nothing while still gaining a ton of xp. I really like the feature when it's used properly, but when someone decides to just sit and leech their way to lvl cap with zero effort, more people will have no idea how to do their job properly once they hit 95. I consider that practice the same as botting/autoing, and should definitely be discouraged with kicks from party leaders so that doesn't happen.

I was in one one smn. Most of the time by the time I pull my summon out and send it to attack the mob was dead. Really there was nothing I could so most of the time I was just standing there. Not sure why you are making a big fuss over. If you don't like garbage players then don't play with them. I know I don't.