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Skill gains per level went up again, 7/level for A/A- skills.

puts hth cap at 426 *af3+2 hands/ Faith / merits and +35 skill* raises base hth dmg to 49.86 *with above gear* and 49.09 without faith T on. correct me if im wrong but this would make Rancor *5% crit rate* one of the best TP necks instead of faith since you no longer gain +1 dmg from it?

I think Rancor was already better than FT, even with FT having the +1 tier.

Small sample size is small, but it's looking like MNK got KA3 for 15% total. (22/100 rounds with 5 KA merits.) also posted on bg.

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Originally Posted by Gokku

Small sample size is small, but it's looking like MNK got KA3 for 15% total. (22/100 rounds with 5 KA merits.) also posted on bg.

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well going by the trend, it should be another 5% and occur @ Lv.91.
Kick Attacks 1 - Lv.51 5%
Kick Attacks 2 - Lv.71 another 5% for total of 10%
** possible Kick attacks 3 - Lv.91 another 5% for total of 15%
*excluded Lv.75 T1 merit points*

Decent upgrade/update for MNK.
Lv.97 if we should get MA VIII (base delay of 260), at which point I think MNK is only 20 delay behind NIN?

I was planning on heavily testing for KA III, but someone said campaign is shut off. I always use fortifications for all of my testing since you dont have any attack rounds that get cut off from a mob dying.

Also KA I is 5%? I have never seen any official testing on that, and was also wanting to set MNK lvl to 51 and check it out. 5% seems weird though, becuase KA II is 13%. I could see KA III being 16 or 18.

Here's the thing though, that sample size he has shows nothing. He has 22/100 with 5 merits with a 95% CI of 8.12. That means with such a small sample size, there is a 95% chance that KA rate is between aprox 14% and 30%. Considering KA II percentage with 5 merits is higher than 14%, we don't even know that there is KA III by LVL 95.

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Originally Posted by Gokku

Small sample size is small, but it's looking like MNK got KA3 for 15% total. (22/100 rounds with 5 KA merits.) also posted on bg.

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A bunch of idiots of you ask me, WAY too small sample.

Rancor collar's inherent pdt doesn't make it very appealing. Faith looks to be crap at 95. If confirmed, it could make the JSE neck superior. The overall KA rate would be base(5) KA1(5) KA2(5) merit(5) af3 (7) plus full set bonus which we can approximate to 5 supposedly for 32 total. I remember kinematic mathing it pretty much on par to faith torque at 90 if no H2H bonus is gained.

I did a simulation with 100,000 iteration of faith VS tantra necklace (capped accuracy) and tantra wins by a low margin (~0.3% so it could very well be reversed if I moves parameters like attack very slightly) . Unless we get more +KA damage from other sources I think either rancor collar of the good old augmented necklaces from mini expansions (like mines which has store tp 2, attack 2 and str2) or 8 attack necklace are good. I put money on new necklaces appearing at 90.

fyi im not the one doing these test im just posting any relevant info from people who are testing.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

The overall KA rate would be base(5) KA1(5) KA2(5) merit(5) af3 (7) plus full set bonus which we can approximate to 5 supposedly for 32 total.

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What the hell is base(5)? How do you have a base KA rate of 5% AND add KA1 as 5% more?
I don't know what KA1 % is, but I can tell you after KA2 trait MNK has a 13% KA rate, and with merits its 18%.
Also FYI, 5/5 Set Bonus=10% proc rate of KA round, so @90 it's equivalent to 2.5%.

base is the base has to be understood as kick attack "1" in my previous post, then KA2 and 3 for 15% total.

Your pulling numbers out of your ass (probably repeating over repeated crap from alla with small sample). Noone has ever done a test with a high enough sample size for kick attack at 75 so yeah. The overall KA from trait right now is 10%(assumed)+5% from merits. Add to this 7 from kick legs = 22%. Add to this each piece of AF3+2 plus the bonus on the full set (5 total not 10). It makes it approximately 27%. I say approximately because the set bonus is not kick attacks, we don't know if the bonus only proc during a normal kick attack or is independant. And no it was not tested because a real test would imply nowing the base kick rate.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Your pulling numbers out of your ass (probably repeating over repeated crap from alla with small sample). Noone has ever done a test with a high enough sample size for kick attack at 75 so yeah.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...s-and-Formulas

Small Sample for ya