Change the Atma "Atma of the Razed Ruins" to better aid all jobs!

I Don't think that this atma is very... how to say it.. "Fair". It supports a small amount of jobs much more than others and if it doesn't help you you're going to be much weaker than the other people around you just because of what this atma does.

I don't think removing it is smart because it is fun to do such awesome damage and that's the point of abyssea, but I vote "Tweaking" it a little would be greatly appreciated.

At this point it adds DEX: Superior(+50), Critical Hit Rate: Superior (+30%), Critical Hit Damage: Major (+30%)

i say to even things up it should be more like DEX: Superior(+50), Critical Hit Rate: Superior (+30%), Physical Damage: Major (+30%)

adding this to make it boost not Critical-hit weaponskilling jobs would be simply amazing.

I know this doesn't fit what you where going with on this atma (OMG CRITICALS BUFFS) but this is would be MUCH MUCH more balanced.

Terrible Idea: You'd still see the same jobs doing the same things, but they'd take longer and cause congestion.

You're not going to invite a SAM over a NIN or a DRK over a WAR if you need red. Furthermore, you're not going to invite a PLD over a MNK for blue unless you're trying to cover slashing weakness.

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Originally Posted by Jar

I Don't think that this atma is very... how to say it.. "Fair". It supports a small amount of jobs much more than others and if it doesn't help you you're going to be much weaker than the other people around you just because of what this atma does.

I don't think removing it is smart because it is fun to do such awesome damage and that's the point of abyssea, but I vote "Tweaking" it a little would be greatly appreciated.

At this point it adds DEX: Superior(+50), Critical Hit Rate: Superior (+30%), Critical Hit Damage: Major (+30%)

i say to even things up it should be more like DEX: Superior(+50), Critical Hit Rate: Superior (+30%), Physical Damage: Major (+30%)

adding this to make it boost not Critical-hit weaponskilling jobs would be simply amazing.

I know this doesn't fit what you where going with on this atma (OMG CRITICALS BUFFS) but this is would be MUCH MUCH more balanced.

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I'll agree that the atma is a little unbalanced, but I don't think replacing the crit hit dmg+ on it is the way to go, the jobs that benifit from the crit dmg+ will benefit just as much from physical dmg dealt +30% and still be leaps and bounds ahead.

The issue isn't so much that Razed Ruin is so overpowered, it's that all other atmas are so underpowered in comparision, jobs without a crit based weaponskill can't keep up due to this, and not using RR hurts dps alot due to how much more dmg critical hits do compared to normal attacks.

I think they also need to make some crit hit rate traits since the jobs that benefit so much from the improved crit hit rate and dmg inside abyssea suffer just as much outside for the lack of gear and only being able to raise crit hit rate through merits or dex+.

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Originally Posted by Azagthoth

Terrible Idea: You'd still see the same jobs doing the same things, but they'd take longer and cause congestion.

You're not going to invite a SAM over a NIN or a DRK over a WAR if you need red. Furthermore, you're not going to invite a PLD over a MNK for blue unless you're trying to cover slashing weakness.

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not everything is done lowman man and procs are not everything in the game

exp is done by all jobs this just evens up the damage potential of DDs somewhat inside abyssea over favoring 1 or 2 jobs outright extremely..

also explain your reasoning behind "You'd still see the same jobs doing the same things, but they'd take longer and cause congestion." this would overall boost ALL jobs even the ones getting the boost from RR already will see a bosst when they DONT critical. wouldnt change gameplay at all and i dont want it to i just want to see more than a few jobs pulling 6K weaponskills.(still wouldnt happen like it does with ukko's.)

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Originally Posted by Habiki

I'll agree that the atma is a little unbalanced, but I don't think replacing the crit hit dmg+ on it is the way to go, the jobs that benifit from the crit dmg+ will benefit just as much from physical dmg dealt +30% and still be leaps and bounds ahead.

The issue isn't so much that Razed Ruin is so overpowered, it's that all other atmas are so underpowered in comparision, jobs without a crit based weaponskill can't keep up due to this, and not using RR hurts dps alot due to how much more dmg critical hits do compared to normal attacks.

I think they also need to make some crit hit rate traits since the jobs that benefit so much from the improved crit hit rate and dmg inside abyssea suffer just as much outside for the lack of gear and only being able to raise crit hit rate through merits or dex+.

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Other atmas cant be changed because we can use 3 so if they make another that is strong like RR it will redoubtably be paired with RR and still put RR users ahead by a mile.

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Originally Posted by Jar

Other atmas cant be changed because we can use 3 so if they make another that is strong like RR it will redoubtably be paired with RR and still put RR users ahead by a mile.

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Well then the solution would be to nerf razed ruin, change its crit hit rate and crit hit dmg to 10-15%.

Every player shouldn't be forced to use razed ruin because all other atmas are so much weaker in comparision.

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Originally Posted by Habiki

Well then the solution would be to nerf razed ruin, change its crit hit rate and crit hit dmg to 10-15%.

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i thought of that before i posted and than thought of how people would rage at this end all atma being nerfed like a ranger

so i opted for the best way to change it w/o nerfing it and all while boosting none crit WS jobs and came up with this <_< tho for some reason people disagree

I read that as Physical Damage Taken +30%. I'm quite tired at the moment; therefore, I apologize. You'd actually be making jobs with crit based WSs stronger as well since Crit Damage wouldn't apply to hits you don't crit.

Either way, I don't see any point making a change specifically for experience level mobs.

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Originally Posted by Azagthoth

I read that as Physical Damage Taken +30%. I'm quite tired at the moment; therefore, I apologize. You'd actually be making jobs with crit based WSs stronger as well since Crit Damage wouldn't apply to hits you don't crit.

Either way, I don't see any point making a change specifically for experience level mobs.

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i play DRK and SAM extensively and i would very much welcome the boost to my favorite jobs!

I want Atma of instant Win
- PUP onry
- every hit is a random blue/red or yellow trigger
- a random aura effect for PUP and anyone within a 10 yalm radius