New 2-hour Abilities

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Originally Posted by Mirage

Fantod Back Heel Fantod Back Heel Fantod Back Heel Fantod Back Heel Fantod Back Heel Fantod Back Heel Fantod Back Heel Fantod Back Heel Fantod Back Heel.

I like the sound of that.

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I'm interested in seeing how much Enmity is generated when using the ability and if strategic use of Snarl will be required to not get smashed by an angry NM. Also wondering if this ability will give Nazuna more trolling potential, looking forward to spamming Sheep Song.

E: Fargann can spam Suction, possible alternative to chain stuns. This ability gets better and better.

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Originally Posted by Caketime

Why would you spend a jug on Back Heel? Assuming this will spend all TP upon execution and force Leave > Call Beast for more TP, you'd probably be better off with: Purulent Ooze > Stank Breath > Fantod > Fantod etc.

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Please re-read Camate's explanation post.

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Originally Posted by Caketime

Why would you spend a jug on Back Heel? Assuming this will spend all TP upon execution and force Leave > Call Beast for more TP, you'd probably be better off with: Purulent Ooze > Stank Breath > Fantod > Fantod etc.

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According the most recent post, a new pet isn't needed to obtain 300 TP:

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Originally Posted by Camate

Let me clarify a bit more on how this ability will work…

• When you use Charm or Call Beast, your pet will instantly receive 300 TP, and it will remain at 300 TP while the effect is active and will not decrease.
• The recast timers for both Sic and Ready will become 0 while the effect is active.
• Charges will be set to the maximum, and while the effect is active they will not be consumed even when using Sic or Ready.

With that said, if you don’t want to change your pet to use different abilities, it will be possible to use abilities back to back even on a single pet.

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The last part is the big part, literally and figuratively in this case, since it means you can use Suction or Whirl Claws over and over more easily or rotate Fantod and Backheel.

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Finally, there was a request to make it so this new special ability steals a beneficial effect as well as deals major damage. While this is technically possible, the current effect makes it so the steal is 100% accurate. If we were to tack on the damage effect as well, we would have to change it so there is a possibility of a miss. Also, even if we were to add a damage effect it would not be a very high value.

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Yeah, don't try to mix in damage complications with a utility ability like this. I think we would much rather it steal more than one effect than any kind gimicky weak damage.

Even if, only when not stealing an SP ability....say...give it the ability to steal three enhancement effects? That way its slightly more powerful than aurasteal (can steal 2 debuffs currently) and can be useful in situations where no stealable SP1 ability is present. Which will be the majority of the time.

As is, SP2 sounds cool, but doesn't really seem all that useful to me. There will be a very select few situations where I'm sure it will be quite useful, but I'm more concerned with the fact that the majority of SP1 abilities that a mob uses are instant, and this ability will be powerless to counter.

And you have chosen to limit this ability to SP1 abilities for some reaosn? So theres that limitation.

Even if you just allow SP2 to steal mutliple enhancements in the abscence of an SP1 ability to steal would make this ability useful a lot more frequently.

As it stands there are actually very few instances SP2 would be actually valuable strategically imo.

All right, now we're talking. 60 seconds of your pet going nuts? Awesome. I take it you still have to dismiss and recall your current pet to grant the effect though?

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Originally Posted by SpankWustler

According the most recent post, a new pet isn't needed to obtain 300 TP:



The last part is the big part, literally and figuratively in this case, since it means you can use Suction or Whirl Claws over and over more easily or rotate Fantod and Backheel.

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Thanks for clarifying. It's sounding much more wallet friendly than before.

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Originally Posted by Leonardus

All right, now we're talking. 60 seconds of your pet going nuts? Awesome. I take it you still have to dismiss and recall your current pet to grant the effect though?

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There is no need to leave your pet.

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Originally Posted by Xilk

There is no need to leave your pet.

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"When you use Charm or Call Beast" was where I was wondering. As in, if you already have a pet up, then use the SP. You'd have to leave your current pet in order to "use Call Beast" to activate the SP effect? (Where then you could spam moves on a single pet)

I'd prefer the SP to act retroactively and just take effect on whatever you have out at the moment, so you could (for example), retain your 10% Familiar haste.

A big thank you for the developer for actually taking our comments and suggestions to heart and made Bstmaster JA very useful and working as intended. As well as coming up with JA for Thief and PLD that works good. Congratulations again for a job well done. Perhaps you could show some love for RDM?

Can Drk get its fixes, new SP need to effect weaponskills, BW needs and help badly, and these two SPs need to have the ability to be activate together