Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUVs7vXNZiw

That about sums up this thread. 900 posts + lol amazing

I have yet to hear a legitimate reason as to why abyssea burning is bad.
Pretty much every bad thing being said would be the same if you couldn't enter abyssea till 75.

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Originally Posted by Nepharite

I have yet to hear a legitimate reason as to why abyssea burning is bad.
Pretty much every bad thing being said would be the same if you couldn't enter abyssea till 75.

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Simply because you choose to ignore every legitimate argument against Abyssea doesn't mean that there are no legit reasons. I could just as easily say I have yet to hear legitimate for Abyssea burning but I'd be lying.

I've heard and considered many arguments for and against Abyssea and both sides raise valid points, but I believe this suggestion is the best compromise short of making Abyssea 75+

the changes need to be two fold for it to work, if the level cap was raised to 70/75, then EXP outside Abyssea needs to change as well, doing both of these would fix the old problem, and this new problem, and the world would be more balanced in terms of where people level.

Abyssea was a good idea, but I think SE should have thought it through before implementation.

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Originally Posted by Dauntless

Simply because you choose to ignore every legitimate argument against Abyssea doesn't mean that there are no legit reasons. I could just as easily say I have yet to hear legitimate for Abyssea burning but I'd be lying.

I've heard and considered many arguments for and against Abyssea and both sides raise valid points, but I believe this suggestion is the best compromise short of making Abyssea 75+

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Give me one of your legit reasons, so we can discuss it.

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Originally Posted by Dauntless

Simply because you choose to ignore every legitimate argument against Abyssea doesn't mean that there are no legit reasons. I could just as easily say I have yet to hear legitimate for Abyssea burning but I'd be lying.

I've heard and considered many arguments for and against Abyssea and both sides raise valid points, but I believe this suggestion is the best compromise short of making Abyssea 75+

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The argument against is that it is too easy and that people don't know their skills. I assure you, sir, that even people who level in legit parties don't always know their skills. It is a slippery slope, and every individual brings something else to the table. This entire thread is basically people opposing experience being easier.

I would muse if half of the detractors existed when ToAU came out (which I am fairly sure they did not) they'd also complain about colibri parties. They also probably opposed level sync.

Complainers will always complain.

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

the changes need to be two fold for it to work, if the level cap was raised to 70/75, then EXP outside Abyssea needs to change as well, doing both of these would fix the old problem, and this new problem, and the world would be more balanced in terms of where people level.

Abyssea was a good idea, but I think SE should have thought it through before implementation.

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They did adjust exp outside of abyssea to accommodate lowman/solo play.

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Originally Posted by Dauntless

Simply because you choose to ignore every legitimate argument against Abyssea doesn't mean that there are no legit reasons. I could just as easily say I have yet to hear legitimate for Abyssea burning but I'd be lying.

I've heard and considered many arguments for and against Abyssea and both sides raise valid points, but I believe this suggestion is the best compromise short of making Abyssea 75+

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I've yet to see an argument for raising the requirement that hasn't been completely and totally ripped apart.

I've yet to see an argument for leaving it the way it is that has been even dented.

I'm still waiting to hear where these supernewbs are coming from that are leeching left and right but have no idea where to go online to get info or ask for advice on their jobs.

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Originally Posted by Nepharite

They did adjust exp outside of abyssea to accommodate lowman/solo play.

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I meant again