Any new HNM coming?

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Originally Posted by Dazusu

You just took what I said and twisted it about several different ways to make it sound absurd.

They could make a world spawn that pops every 5 minutes after death. That's accessible, no?

At what point did I say I wanted to spend 1-24 hours, or 1-72 hours camping a HNM?

For the players that don't have "time to camp stupid HNMs", there exists 9 whole zones of Abyssea. Fantastic!

What you're saying is (I'm paraphrasing you understand): "There shouldn't be any content that I don't agree with, or have time to do myself."

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I didn't twist anything around you guys said you wanted old style world HNMs. I explained as to why they didn't work in the past and gave a rebuttal as to why world spawn HNMs are a bad idea and not really competitive. If you think having the best only on world spawns then you don't have a leg to stand on. Also look at what Natenn has been saying there's no way some one like him would be satisfied with SE adding like 15 HNMs that spawned all over the world on 5 minute intervals. Nobody else would either because unless they all had the same drops you'd have next to an impossible task to get what you wanted. Try again though maybe you're close to figuring some good system.

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Originally Posted by Orson

I didn't twist anything around you guys said you wanted old style world HNMs. I explained as to why they didn't work in the past and gave a rebuttal as to why world spawn HNMs are a bad idea and not really competitive. If you think having the best only on world spawns then you don't have a leg to stand on. Also look at what Natenn has been saying there's no way some one like him would be satisfied with SE adding like 15 HNMs that spawned all over the world on 5 minute intervals. Nobody else would either because unless they all had the same drops you'd have next to an impossible task to get what you wanted. Try again though maybe you're close to figuring some good system.

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I KNOW, HOW ABOUT FORCE POP HNM'S


just saying

Or we can jusy buy things like D ring from an NPC for 1 gil, that would be right up your alley!

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Originally Posted by Natenn

Or we can jusy buy things like D ring from an NPC for 1 gil, that would be right up your alley!

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I'm sure all the lazy ppl would rejoice if that happened, but seriously though you make it sound like Force pop NMs are so easy that a lvl 1 can solo it or something.

the only "challenge" he wants is for claim, once its popped it may as well be a rarab, just so long as he wins claim with his super ps2

This game lacks competition and rivalry since HNMs stopped getting camped. For me that was the most exciting part of this game, beating the other Linkshells to claim something. You get a sense of pride claiming over others and also being able to kill whatever you claimed in a decent manner and pace with your Linkshell. But maybe this is just me, heh. I miss old times.

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Originally Posted by Riko

This game lacks competition and rivalry since HNMs stopped getting camped. For me that was the most exciting part of this game, beating the other Linkshells to claim something. You get a sense of pride claiming over others and also being able to kill whatever you claimed in a decent manner and pace with your Linkshell. But maybe this is just me, heh. I miss old times.

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The problem is that the competitive aspects of the game were never developed upon and aspects that were never intended to be competitive became that way for the wrong reasons. The developers probably never expected hundreds of players standing around in dragon's aery during the spawn window

In my opinion world spawns wouldn't have been as much of a problem if the rage function worked better. i.e monster spawns however many hours after death and rages for a random amount of time after spawn .

I am pretty sure they expected exactly that to happen and either were empathic to the people unable to partake in said fights or did not want to further tweak that aspect so that certain pieces of gear would have that higher pedestal to the community.

Well I for 1 want to kill every NM in game, beat all missions/quest get all jobs to max level and Then get banned, im not sure why you want any New HNM's but why not have a timer like Dyna where you cant get claim on another HNM/NM within 72 hours as a group. Get nq Behemoth as a Pt of 6, kill it see u again in 3 days. I like the pop idea but even so not every LS can kill KB NID or Tiamat without having 18+ there, hell most lvl 90 players who are less than 2 years in game Dont even know how Kirin is. Let them get Kills on those NM's 1st before u talk about New HNM's. But if they do make new ones, Let them be as hard or harder than PW and AV were at 75. give them 30 min Timer before d-pop give them Total AOE like CC/KB/Nid/Aspid etc. Give them ZONE draw in, Give them everything that makes you mad just so some crybaby noob cant beat it without Learning how to play. BTW still havent killed Tiamat or Vtra with 6 ppl, I got alot to learn.m <o^o> m

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Originally Posted by Manicora

BTW still havent killed Tiamat or Vtra with 6 ppl, I got alot to learn.m <o^o> m

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Suck less, people were doing that at 75