Future of FFXI and your approvals/disapprovals to the development team

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Originally Posted by Meyi

FFXIclopedia. I never hear anyone ever suggest BG, but always hear people suggest wiki.

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Uh, an absolutely huge chunk of information on Ffxiclopedia around new update time is just copy-pasted from BG without proper source citing =/. BG will almost always have it first, exceptions being the occasional good Alla poster who cross-posts in BG (Tummie, Kinematics).

I have to agree, new info usually pops up on BG first then then is funneled to wiki. There are also a lot of wiki posts that are wrong, and are later fixed. Wiki search function is a bit more user friendly though, which is why most people flock there first. But if you read testimonials there, a lot make lolmobs sound like a friggin epic battle when they can be soloed/duoed easily.

Now that we all know it's pchan.. Yeah. Lol!

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Uh, an absolutely huge chunk of information on Ffxiclopedia around new update time is just copy-pasted from BG without proper source citing =/. BG will almost always have it first, exceptions being the occasional good Alla poster who cross-posts in BG (Tummie, Kinematics).

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Can you be more accurate on this ? What kind of info are you talking about. It's funny how you don't give exemples. Everything abyssea related is done outside of BG, wake up, it's all about killing NM and observing what they drop . Victory smite have been tested by JP from studio G then reported on wiki by alla posters. Basic game mechanics like pdif is entirely done by JPP, and only recently masamune tried to bring BG to test it again as some forumlae were wrong, but noone tested because BG doesn't care. Noone there can test it, they wouldn't even know how to do it nor test a ws MOD. There was this kirshy data about crit pdif on a exemple, but all it did was confirmed what was done. Only recent info coming from BG would be exact marche values. The entire magic accuracy section was done outside of BG. I think you are an idot really. BG doesn't test shit. I remember this idiot Mojo once posting he wanted to test treasure hunter and all he did was asking other persons on the site to kill mobs for him so he can sum it up in the thread. Facepalm.

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I remember this idiot Mojo once posting he wanted to test treasure hunter and all he did was asking other persons on the site to kill mobs for him so he can sum it up in the thread. Facepalm.

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Because a random brainless post speaks for what an entire forum is about, right?

Facing directions while crafting improves HQ? - BG debunked.
Best items for each slot for, hell, every job in game - BG
Kirschy has tested/proven more things herself than 90% of your precious JP community.

So don't talk about people being an idiot when you have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Can you be more accurate on this ? What kind of info are you talking about. It's funny how you don't give exemples. Everything abyssea related is done outside of BG, wake up, it's all about killing NM and observing what they drop . Victory smite have been tested by JP from studio G then reported on wiki by alla posters. Basic game mechanics like pdif is entirely done by JPP, and only recently masamune tried to bring BG to test it again as some forumlae were wrong, but noone tested because BG doesn't care. Noone there can test it, they wouldn't even know how to do it nor test a ws MOD. There was this kirshy data about crit pdif on a exemple, but all it did was confirmed what was done. Only recent info coming from BG would be exact marche values. The entire magic accuracy section was done outside of BG. I think you are an idot really. BG doesn't test shit. I remember this idiot Mojo once posting he wanted to test treasure hunter and all he did was asking other persons on the site to kill mobs for him so he can sum it up in the thread. Facepalm.

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Oh obviously, because pDif has so much to do with information concerning new content on Update day (eg, the type of information we were talking about). A hell of a lot of information on Abyssea, Lights, NMs, Pop requirements, Maps, and the like was reported and compiled in Cairthenn's threads on BG.

You hate BG. We know. They hate you too. Go away.

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Originally Posted by Guitarman

Because a random brainless post speaks for what an entire forum is about, right?
Facing directions while crafting improves HQ? - BG debunked.

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Noone ever took this seriously, except BG apparently.

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Best items for each slot for, hell, every job in game - BG

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Really ? All I see is people inputing numbers in Kinematics spreadsheet...

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Kirschy has tested/proven more things herself than 90% of your precious JP community.

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Kirshy tested recast, haste values. That's hardly 90% of the JP community.

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So don't talk about people being an idiot when you have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about.

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I know what I'm talking about, I've done the entirely magic accuracy tests, spell interruption tests, and 1/3 of the critical hit tiers thread.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

A hell of a lot of information on Abyssea, Lights, NMs, Pop requirements, Maps, and the like was reported and compiled in Cairthenn's threads on BG.

You hate BG. We know. They hate you too. Go away.

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I believe this is because you only read BG. Don't you think JP don't read BG and figure everything themselves ? You are playing an online game, you know.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

I believe this is because you only read BG. Don't you think JP don't read BG and figure everything themselves ? You are playing an online game, you know.

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I never said anything about JP. I said Ffxiclopedia has a bad history of blatantly ripping off material directly from BG and not citing the source. Do they do this to other sites too? I'm sure they do. Never said they didn't. You're just trying to pick a fight.

FFXIclopedia is the only source of knowlege about game mechanics and saying the pages are copy pasta from BG is retardation. A lot of pages link their source and discussion is often done within the "discussion" section of the page, after which the main page is edited in a clear way. Since you don't seem to be used to checking this side of the pages I'll suggest you to visit the pdif wiki page and visit the corresponding "talk" here. You will see a lot of maths and tecnical considreation as well as sources of testing.