in case you guys didn't know, those are all seperate plugins and customizable to some degree--for instance, the recast trackers can be positioned anywhere on screen, and you can designate the font size as well. You can even turn off some things from being displayed with some plugins. More customization may be possible with further development.
The point of the SS is that it can and IS being done already. And by people who do this stuff in their free time, which seems to suggest it would not be rocket science to a paid staff of developers.....
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you can also set tranparency of background for the overlays of most plugins (or not use a bg color at all). As for not being able to determine what cure is appropriate....then you just aren't paying attention. You can see the exact numeric value of someone's HP. So....you know what their HP is when full---just takes some simple math to know not to hit somone with a Cure6 when they only about 400 hp from full. Before you go tearing down the work these guys have thrown into these programs....perhaps you should read up on how they actually work, even if you have no intention of using them. If nothing else, do it out of respect for their dedication and so you actually know what you are criticizing.
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03-20-2012, 03:22 AMRAIST
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03-20-2012, 08:29 AMMarkovChain
I'm not here to respect any third party, you showed us a SS of a UI that clearly has poor design. Almost as if you tried to show SE what they should do when they shouldn't do this. Not willing to play a command line game tyvm. I can give hints for a usable UI :
replace ctrl J with a single key to check JA recasts (much quicker, same for macros), and make it so that 'J' displays a pop up window, pressing it once more disable it. Do a similar popup window for the 5 previously used spels.
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03-20-2012, 01:53 PMRAISTum... no... the SS was to show that a small group of people in their free time already figured out a way to display all that information on the screen, and with a somewhat customizable interface. If I were posting an example for SE to look at for ideas, I would have specifically addressed SE to that end (as I did in a thread a while back with the link to the D3 UI changes). Note that most things in that SS are customizable to some extent, that is just how that particular user chose to configure his/her plugins. Most of them could possibly be even more customizable and streamlined if more resources were made available to work on it. From what I recall reading about some of those plugins in the past, in many cases each was designed by ONE PERSON, not a whole freaking team of developers familiar with and having direct access to the game's source code.Quote:
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And command line game?? What are you going on about there? I've used a PS2 controller on my PC for ages....don't use command-line. -
03-20-2012, 03:31 PMShadowsongYour suggestions suck. I do not want a keyboard command to check Job Abilities I want it on the screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkovChain
My opinion > your opinion
You comment on Windower plugins, yet show you have zero knowledge about any of it. Nearly 100% of what you said is wrong (like that even had to be said lol).
Also, cool story bro critisizing a low resolution screenshot of someone not using windower properly to begin with. Way to keep it golden -
03-20-2012, 05:13 PMMarkovChainNah when you have to go deep in the source code to adapt to your own need, it means the UI sucks. The reason the guy let the plugins as is is because he loads the defaults one and doesn't configure further. User friendly UI, what is it ? You cannot expect much from people that don't have access to the game code. So stop explaining me I should not express criticism. All they did is display stuff on top of the game screen. We don't want that UI ty. Most people use windower for dual boxing and macros NOT for its poor UI ajustements.Quote:
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03-20-2012, 05:45 PMShadowsong
LOL
Just because programming is hard for you, doesn't mean it is for us.
Speak for yourself, you are definately one of a kind lolQuote:
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03-20-2012, 06:11 PMhikobtw that's yarnball not recastQuote:
Originally Posted by RAIST
I don't want keyboard shortcut because i play with gamepad (how FFXI was designed to be played).Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkovChain
I agree windower plugins UI is far from perfect but IMO having stuff displayed without need of any input is nice
YOU are not everybody!Quote:
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03-20-2012, 07:17 PMMarkovChainGuy 1 made a badly designed program and distributes it. Guy 2 has to go back into the program to make it work. Guyz 2 explains everyones else that they are idiots for not willing to redo the program and use it for their own needs. Yeah we totally don't need your ideas in here. It's not even elitism from your part because the final result is probably craptastic. Show us your customed UI please.Quote:
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03-20-2012, 07:46 PMhikogo programm a better UI than windower or GTFO.Quote:
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03-20-2012, 08:57 PMMarkovChain
Windower white knights. Facepalm.