Raise the Minimum Requirement for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75

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Originally Posted by Akujima

Expansions/Addons shouldn't make everything else completely useless, there should be a reason to complete all that other content still.

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while I definitely don't want a WoW vs. FFXI debate, nor do I want to say that FFXI has to be like WoW, BUT

They've done this with a lot of expansions in WoW. How many people are in shatt? or in dalaran? maybe like 3 people happening to pass by on a random quest.

A lot of those dungeons are never used unless someone is randomly leveling in there.

Now again ffxi doesn't have to be like WoW, but WoW does prove that out-dating content =/= a dying game. Basically, all I want to point out that sometimes it's ok to outdate content and it's not the end of the world (or the game).

Aku if you think level is real content go play FF14 thats pretty much the only real content it has. Real content is missions story lines and gear. Nothing stoping people from doing the story lines Now before you say no reward for people to do it it also work the other way too. Even with reward but needing the perfect set up to win missions put a fair amount of people off. Thats also why people told new player don't bother with CoP at level caps cause you'll need a 75 to beat some the missions and other jobs better for other missions if you didn't pick WHM as you first job.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

What about people who don't have access to AoE spells? Like, every job besides BLM? Is it fair to them that I can get my trial done in less than half the time that they do? Isn't that your whole argument? A small number of people getting to 90 faster than most other people? I made the connection, I'm sure a lot of people who has/will read this have made the connection. Why not you? Maybe you see the connection and don't want to admit it, because that would be detrimental to your whole argument.

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It's a very small connection and is incomparable with the ability to Skyrocket every single job in the game from Lv30 to Lv90 in less than 1 month. That's why it's fanatical.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Those are the most popular camps, and usually those are the ones that get filled up first. Some oldschoolers might fight in Eastern Altep Desert at level 30, maybe Kazham at 25, but those are rare now, since its much faster to get exp in Qufim and Colibri camps.

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Very subjective. It may be "easier" to get EXP in those camps, but not "faster".

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Originally Posted by Korpg

I wonder why, though, you feel like controlling everyone's enjoyment. By telling people "this is the right way, you have to do it this way or you are doing it wrong, you are cheating, you are undermining my entire experience and I want you to quit right now because you are a bad player" sounds a little like Hitler. Are you going to be all "Third Reich" on us and demand "Perfection of FFXI" and the "liberation of leechers everywhere"? Because thats what I'm getting from you.

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Again, more fanaticism.

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Originally Posted by Kensagaku

I would like to quote this post. Bolded for emphasis. Also only two days, didn't even make a week. Called it~

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Another disgusting childish response, that made me want to stop posting in the first place.


You're right though.
I am an idiot for continuing this. You can quote me on that too.

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Originally Posted by Aliekber

Panthera, you are a classic Scrub. Read the article, become enlightened, change your life.

If something isn't against the TOS, it isn't cheating. Per. I. Od.

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God damn you! I've been clean for months and now I've got 50 tvtropes tabs open again and it's all your fault.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

God damn you! I've been clean for months and now I've got 50 tvtropes tabs open again and it's all your fault.

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"Hi. My name is Aliekber and I'm a tropeaholic."

Good thing there is a finite number of tropes, so sooner or later it'll be over, right?

RIGHT?!?

Akujima, I'm just calling it as I see it.

Your posts dictate a controlling attitude, and I'm not the only one who has said that. I just finished reading up to my first post on this thread on page 54, and I still see that you two are not really making any sense anymore. Almost all of your posts from page 40 onwards has been nothing but defensive and nonconstructive, most of which have given me a headache! Should I bill you for the aspirin I took just to read your posts?

Just admit that this argument is void now, stop replying to this thread, and it will eventually die down.

Also admit that you need to change your attitude towards others. I suggest therapy, but that might cost too much. I see a lot of troubled times ahead of you though.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

God damn you! I've been clean for months and now I've got 50 tvtropes tabs open again and it's all your fault.

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It caught me too. I thought I was the only one. I'm glad I'm not alone in my struggle with this addiction.

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Originally Posted by Romanova

while I definitely don't want a WoW vs. FFXI debate, nor do I want to say that FFXI has to be like WoW, BUT

They've done this with a lot of expansions in WoW. How many people are in shatt? or in dalaran? maybe like 3 people happening to pass by on a random quest.

A lot of those dungeons are never used unless someone is randomly leveling in there.

Now again ffxi doesn't have to be like WoW, but WoW does prove that out-dating content =/= a dying game. Basically, all I want to point out that sometimes it's ok to outdate content and it's not the end of the world (or the game).

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Also, there ARE still reasons to complete that older content; the fact that direct and indirect mission rewards like Rajas, Suppanomimi, Brutal Earring, Sea Gorgets, and so forth have held up a lot better than most other 75 gear is not a coincidence. MKE/ASA/ACP augments are still a godsend for specialized macro gear, as well, to say nothing of old-content synthetic atma.