How would you like certain items to be changed?

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Originally Posted by Rustic

I believe the point is you can either have optimal TH or optimal DPS, but you can't perform both roles at once.

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This is actually a common misconception. Thief's Knife exists to severely annoy Thieves just by existing. Originally the method through which Thief's Knife was obtained achieved this goal, and now the profound wretchedness of a level 75 weapon achieves this goal.

There was a time when neither applied and Thief's Knife was only "mildly off-putting". For the micro-nihilist who designed Thief's Knife in order to watch some small corner of the world sort of smolder just a little bit, those were dark days indeed.

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Originally Posted by SpankWustler

This is actually a common misconception. Thief's Knife exists to severely annoy Thieves just by existing. Originally the method through which Thief's Knife was obtained achieved this goal, and now the profound wretchedness of a level 75 weapon achieves this goal.

There was a time when neither applied and Thief's Knife was only "mildly off-putting". For the micro-nihilist who designed Thief's Knife in order to watch some small corner of the world sort of smolder just a little bit, those were dark days indeed.

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I think the flaw is in that people demand the absolute maximum TH from a THF- because the idea that -1 TH will cause them to lose millions of 100 pieces/uber items and suffer horribly as a result.

It's why I'd honestly love them to just make a really nice +TH/+Steal/+Despoil H2H weapon and leave it at that. Then if you want the super good shinies drop rate, you're not even going to whine once about the lower DPS while I try and punch that mob with a 300-cap E-rated H2H skill and yoink it's purse for good measure. Putting TH on a dagger just leaves us wondering.

So reading this post, and I thought to myself what items could I see changed?
The CoP/RoZ/ToUA/WotF earrings/rings upgraded. As useful as they are they need to be upgraded, no one wants to work hard for 75 cap items, and the cap is 99 now
I'd also like to see Octave Club become an actual kraken club rare/ex. Not some hidden effect bullcrap
Sea/Sky items upgraded also. You can only do so much with augments.

In pre-aby FFXI, every area had its purpose. Whether it was leveling, NMs, Farming. HNMs, the list goes on. People were in these areas constantly. Now, all the area serve is as Exploration. With Aby, SE killed old ffxi, Im not saying aby was a bad this because FFXI needed a faster way to level, but should of thought more of upgrading the content to make the whole Vana'diel useful. Lets make all areas have a purpose again.

But, as SoA approaches, I get the jitters because I know new players are going to get a chance to taste what the old world was made of. If its going to go the way I think its going to go. Players are going to have to be skilled again, no more I can rock perle gear and do as much damage as a well geared counterpart.

So SE its up to you, upgrade the old contents gear and make it worthwhile, make linkshells come together again. I dont mean augments, I mean the level, make us feel the fire that burned in our hearts once. Bring Vana'diel back to life.

Bait It used to be only stackable to 12, so I get that the crafting of it allows you to make 12. If you HQ1 it, you make 12, not 16 or 24, but 12. If you HQ3 it, you make 12. 12. 12. 12.
A stack of earth crystals + stack of hare meat + stack of distilled water + san dorian flour = (no matter how many HQs you have) 144 meatballs
The change I am asking for is the HQ amounts or crafting results in general to change for some of these baits. Insect paste is another example of a recipe that will always yield the same results, weather you are 40 cooking or 110 cooking. Is it possible to change like bullets, to the 33, 66, 99 format? It would be less of a headache to craft or sell. (I put 99 meatballs on the Auction House and now have 45 meatballs left in my inventory? Eh...)

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ArrowsI love that there are elemental arrows, but why do we never use them? It's because the en-spell on them is not enough to make up for the damage a regular demon arrow can do. I could stack on 300 INT and some MAB gear on my Ranger, and the extra ice effect of the ice arrows will only be cool for the sound effects. Could those en-elemental arrows be rebuffed? Maybe add an inherent MAB to them? Require less INT to do more? Have a higher tier version, such a level 80 fire arrow?
BoltsThese are almost awesome as is, but maybe adding to the status effects list would be a good change. Silence bolts would be wonderful. As it is, on Thief, I only carry acid bolts and bloody bolts, because those are the only two items worth mentioning to make crossbow worthwhile. Sleep bolts don't last very long, and I suppose that could be seen as reasonable. Maybe an addition of a (low chance to proc) Dispel Bolt? When I was a crossbow Ranger, I always saw the advantage of crossbow being in the ability to help do status effects, while doing decent damage. It really isn't that great, damage wise, unless you are a ranger. If you are a ranger using crossbows, you aren't putting out as much damage as you could be if you were using a bow or gun. (Unless you count acid bolt spamming, and adding the extra damage the alliance does as your own.)

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Please add RDM to Cuauhtli/Mextli, Ocelomeh/Toci's, Athos, and Thaumas sets. It is a job made to be a hybrid between a mage and a melee job. PUP and BST are both featured on 2 out of 3 sets from the same events as these, PUP is on the Light DD and Mage sets, while BST is featured on the Light and Heavy DD sets. I think it is fair for the 2 hybrid mages to get that sort of treatment, meaning BLU and RDM both getting access to Anhur/Mex, Heka/Toci, Rubeus/Athos, and Nares/Thaumas. This would help balance the jobs as well, and would make RDM a more useful job up close. Currently in optimum gear a RDM does about 60% of the melee damage a BLU does, while both jobs are hybrids of a similar nature.

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Since SoA is very close, I would like to repost this, I would like RDM to get access to this gear to help the job be more productive close up. If nothing else, I would like to be included on new light DD sets coming with SoA, many RDMs fear RUN will be filling even more of our roles, and without this kind of gear it will surely surpass our front line uses. So please add RDM to these types of sets, and perhaps even the previously listed sets, otherwise the jobs front line powers will remain sub-par and jobs like BLU and SCH will keep it... unneeded and sub-par in almost all situations.

Healing was made better by the changes to Healing Magic, or rather, Cures I through IV. Nuking seems to be getting adjusted in the future, putting it more on par with melee damage, which will again help RDM. The 1-handed adjustments should help RDM as well, same as these other two, but RDM currently has a single flaw when it comes to melee that it does not in the other two fields, gear. RDM has access to all of the best gear for cures and nuking that are not from a JSE set like the Emp+2 gear, but its melee gear is horrid by compare to other jobs, so improve this one area, and with the other adjustments RDM should be a powerful job again.

RDM is supposed to be the 'Jack of all Trades' but master of none, currently, we are master of none, but we are not as good at melee as we should be, which hurts us more than people seem to realize. People can argue that RDM should not melee, but there is a simple fact those people seem to forget, melee is what makes RDM different than SCH, it is what separates the two more than anything else. This request for the Cuauhtli/Mextli, Ocelomeh/Toci's, Athos, and Thaumas sets is a request I believe would put RDM in a few more parties, and give it a bit more use than it sees right now, as well as helping it live up to its name as a Jack of all Trades.

do something about VNM hunting!!! i dont mind a mob being hard to kill but having you spam one nm over and over to hope you change your abbysite,then to have it break on tier III nm,now you have to do it all over again and again.........Just my thought's ((hate (hate colorless soul farming)

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Originally Posted by fernando

do something about VNM hunting!!! i dont mind a mob being hard to kill but having you spam one nm over and over to hope you change your abbysite,then to have it break on tier III nm,now you have to do it all over again and again.........Just my thought's ((hate (hate colorless soul farming)

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I wouldn't mind the VNM hunting process if it wasn't for the shadow/shadowless T3/T4s, creating a T4 abyssite only to pop a shadowless dragon is sooo depressing.

I wouldn't mind them if they were less of a blatant time sink, but they're so obvious about it that I get fed up after 5 or so kills and have to do something else. If upgrades weren't such a hassle it might not be too bad, but that's just the first thing wrong with them. Tracking is nightmarish at times, it feels like the game is teasing when the mob jumps around a small area and despite the player's efforts the mob won't spawn. This annoying behavior certainly adds time to the overall process, it's kind of sad that the devs decided to suck all of the fun out of this system and replace it with traditional Japanese gameplay, which is both repetitive and exhausting.

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Originally Posted by Myo

I wouldn't mind the VNM hunting process if it wasn't for the shadow/shadowless T3/T4s, creating a T4 abyssite only to pop a shadowless dragon is sooo depressing.

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Depressing would be if Yilbegan could pop with a 0% chance to drop rings, but he didn't let you know via the fact he has no shadow. If every NM outright told you "Hey, 0% chance at that thing you want" or "Hey, 80% chance at that thing you want" every time you popped it, the game would be less depressing, not more depressing.

Imagine if ADL got changed to Yilbegan's loot forecasting system. 80% chance you get normal ADL who can't drop marrow, if he drops a sword, it's always talekeeper, and his skin is bright pink. 20% chance you get good ADL who drops 5-7 marrows, if he drops a sword, it's always sagasinger, and his skin is it's normal color. Would any ADL group complain about the ability to know immediately that it's simply not worth killing the pop they just farmed?

Drop rates will always be held back one way or another. Difficulty in killing the enemy, low drop rate, multiple drops required, one drop required but it's only useful when that drop item is HQ'd in its crafting recipe, etc. At least VNMs allow you to utilize knowlege to improve your farming efficiency. Yilbegan has no shadow? Ignore him and spend your time farming a new pop instead of foolishly killing an enemy who has a 0% drop rate.

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Originally Posted by Caketime

it's kind of sad that the devs decided to suck all of the fun out of this system and replace it with traditional Japanese gameplay, which is both repetitive and exhausting.

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So... which race of people makes the least repetitive and exhausting games?

I see what you're implying there. The answer is C) None of these.

Would also like to note that I was making a crack at the VNM system by comparing it to old PC games developed by Japanese companies that were incredibly hard, in the style of Wizardry, just for fun. Implying racism is cool too though, I appreciate that.

All old games were hard and tedious. Off the top of my head, I remember the zork series, sword of fargoal, joust, and bart vs. the world. None of which were made by Japanese companies. Also, Wizardry was developed by Andrew Greenberg and Robert Woodhead who are Americans.

You specifically singled out Japanese games and labeled them as repetitive and exhausting. Am I saying you're a racist? I don't know you well enough to make that judgement. Anyone can make honest wording mistakes and create sentences that don't accurately depict what they're trying to get across. You might benefit from choosing your words more carefully. As far as racist beliefs go, "<race> makes boring video games" is pretty low on the Hitler scale, anyways.

I'm now positive that you didn't read what I just posted.

Did you fire a Nerf dart at the screen and just make something up from the word it landed on?

Well so far as making VNMs suck less, just remove the shadow system completely, it was a stupid idea then, its a stupid idea now, and the more time that goes on, the stupider it will be. VNM hunting is mostly dead unless someone is making a weapon which requires them, no one does it for fun or rewards except for a rare few people, and unless they remove the shadows, less people will care about rewards. I myself would love the INT and STR rings, but I can not stand the idea of going out and farming pops for hours just to pop a Vamp or Wyrm that has no shadow so I can curse about how I wasted my time. But in the end, VNMs are currently far to luck based anyways, luck that T1 turns to T2, luck that T2 turns to T3, luck that T3 has a shadow, then hope luck is on your side again that you may get the actual drop. If you want T4, then you have to hope you T3 upgrades so you do not have to start over, and hope he has a shadow too, if he has no shadow, or the T3 does not upgrade, or the ring doesn't drop, your screwed.

Can't stress this enough for sure. The Empyrean Weapon Upgrades, can we get them to stack to 99? Would help a ton!

The CoP + ToAU Rings being scaled up for Lv.99. I'd love to see the 'Salvage/Assault' Effects go into full use on the ToAU Rings

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Originally Posted by Caketime

I'm now positive that you didn't read what I just posted.

Did you fire a Nerf dart at the screen and just make something up from the word it landed on?

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Am I incorrect in assuming that you find older Japanese games to be "both repetitive and exhausting"? Am I incorrect in assuming that you believe the Wizardry series was "both repetitive and exhausting", and that it is also made by a Japanese company? If I am incorrect in my assumptions, my apologies to you, but I can only go off the words you put to keyboard, not the thoughts which exist in your head.

I never said Wizardry was made by a Japanese company, you keep insisting that I did. Saying "old PC games, in the style of Wizardry" is not the same as "Wizardry was made by Japanese people". Please reading comprehension next time. Also yes, those games were incredibly repetitive, they were that way by nature. You keep trying to imply that I'm racist when you just misunderstood my point that the VNM claim system was repetitive by design, and instead of realizing that it was in jest and appreciating a bit of nerd humor, you repeatedly imply racism. I mean, we're playing a game in a series of games which were inspired by those old PC titles in the first place, I thought the comparison would be fairly obvious to see, but like I said the implied racism and condescension is fine too.

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Originally Posted by Caketime

I never said Wizardry was made by a Japanese company, you keep insisting that I did. Saying "old PC games, in the style of Wizardry" is not the same as "Wizardry was made by Japanese people".

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I apologize for my misunderstanding of your post. Please allow me to show my point of view in this matter.

Due to the principles of "Chekhov's Gun", when you specifically chose to mention Japanese games, I felt there had to be some sort of reason for this. Most games back then were exactly as you described regardless of their country of origin, so you could have gotten away without the adjective "Japanese", and your metaphor would have been equally effective. And again, in your next post, you could have said:"old PC games, in the style of Wizardry", but you didn't. You said:

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Originally Posted by Caketime

old PC games developed by Japanese companies that were incredibly hard, in the style of Wizardry, just for fun.

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Again, the word "Japanese" was not necessary to describe such games, so my mind naturally wondered why you felt the need to include that adjective. The conclusion I came to was that you were attempting to say "old PC games developed by Japanese companies that were incredibly hard, such as Wizardry".

So again, I apologize that I got it incorrect. Hopefully this will help clarify why I misread your posts.

Since we've cleared up that mess regarding your second post, but I still don't quite understand your first post, could you please clarify what you meant by "traditional Japanese gameplay, which is both repetitive and exhausting."? I believe that is the point which set off this whole misunderstanding between us.

Sorry, can't help you, I'm just a stupid racist. Dragon Warrior says hi, though.

Someone call the conductor, the train is off the rails, it collided with an enlarged ego flexing its e-muscles.

As for other things id like to see changed, its a big list kinda, but basically, augmented non magian items. Ever take a second character into abyssea on the same account, and find that 1 augment you have been thirsting after on your main character? That 3% fast cast jewel collar, the TH+1 tarutaru sash? The -6% physical and magical dark ring? Well you cant pass that up! But now, its stuck on a character who might not even be able to use it reasonably. What about that awesome augmented genbu staff that you want to mule for the character's use or storage? Well thats what jumps to mind for me! And since you cant remove and store the augments while the item is stored, its kinda bummer.

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Originally Posted by Crimson_Slasher

Someone call the conductor, the train is off the rails, it collided with an enlarged ego flexing its e-muscles.

As for other things id like to see changed, its a big list kinda, but basically, augmented non magian items. Ever take a second character into abyssea on the same account, and find that 1 augment you have been thirsting after on your main character? That 3% fast cast jewel collar, the TH+1 tarutaru sash? The -6% physical and magical dark ring? Well you cant pass that up! But now, its stuck on a character who might not even be able to use it reasonably. What about that awesome augmented genbu staff that you want to mule for the character's use or storage? Well thats what jumps to mind for me! And since you cant remove and store the augments while the item is stored, its kinda bummer.

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Sorry, Crimson, you are right that I was out of line, which is why I made the effort to apologize and explain myself. Back to task though, you're requesting these augged items become transferrable between your characters? Would that be just between characters on the same account, or would you also be able to trade them around to anyone?

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Sorry, Crimson, you are right that I was out of line, which is why I made the effort to apologize and explain myself. Back to task though, you're requesting these augged items become transferrable between your characters? Would that be just between characters on the same account, or would you also be able to trade them around to anyone?

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Well as i said in my own post;

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Originally Posted by Crimson_Slasher

Ever take a second character into abyssea on the same account, and find that 1 augment you have been thirsting after on your main character?

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So strictly in the same manner that current rare/ex items that are permitted, are able to be transfered through the delivery box to characters on the same POL account. Not creating a market to allow augment item farming or any such nonsense, just something to benefit those who have actually leveled 2 characters on the same account. For example i personally have my storage character leveled (currently 95) to open more storage options, and so that i may visit dynamis twice per day if i am so inclined. Another example is 2 members of my linkshell, brothers, they are playing on the same POL account but different characters, alternating play every other day. In this case, one of them could say aquire two dark rings with prime augments, and rather than forcing the other to go in day after day after day and attempt to get two of his own, he could simple ask his brother to send them at the end of the day to him.

Well, I'm no expert on the topic, but I believe the reps once mentioned that any augged items being sent through delivery or sold on the AH would be stripped of their augments due to some limitations on these systems. As far as I know, there is no such limitation on direct trading of augmented items, so simply removing the EX tag from these aug items would seem the simplest way to make them mule-able.

That would most likely lead to aug farmers as you mentioned, but I'm not sure that would be such a bad thing. Would it result in overcrowding for certain things? Are there some augged items that are too powerful to be allowed to flood the game?

While i cant say for certain if there are any items that we wouldnt want pumped into the economy enmasse, i am skeptical to the ability to trade such items being opened. Auctionhouse stripping augments would be like stripping signatures, however... deliverybox does not do this. So if that were the case, to me it seems augments are on a system which prevents transfer of any sort. So IF that is the case, then its unlikely that would be able to happen at all. However i do believe its more likely that they would be able to allow delivery box functions before bazaar and trade functions. But we know how fickle they are with that. (see dynamis coins, alexandrite, forgotten touches/thoughts/hopes/journeys/steps.)

But that is still how i would like certain items to be changed. Which is the question posed for this thread.

How about more materials for Hexed Gear be dropped else where beside VW, So we don't have to spend 70mil on one piece of gear.

Kraken Club & Octave Club: I would like to see the newer jobs (BLU/SCH/DNC/PUP) added to these items. I also second making Octave Club exactly like Kraken Club, only Rare/Ex.

I would like to see additional jobs on Sky/Abjuration gear as well. I think it would be nice if SCH and BLU could wear the Dalmatica set, for example, or if BLU could use Seiryu's Sword.

How about putting RDM on more Magic Attack Bonus Gear like Maniacus Sash and stop putting SMN and BRD on them instead. It makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by Calatilla

How about putting RDM on more Magic Attack Bonus Gear like Maniacus Sash and stop putting SMN and BRD on them instead. It makes no sense.

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Well in all honesty currently RDM is on all of the best nuking gear in the game so far as I know, so its not as though we are lacking much, the only real items I can think of we lack in that department are the Searing gear, and that sash.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Well in all honesty currently RDM is on all of the best nuking gear in the game so far as I know, so its not as though we are lacking much, the only real items I can think of we lack in that department are the Searing gear, and that sash.

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Yea you're right, but it still makes me face palm everytime I see SMN and/or BRD on nuking gear that RDM can't use.

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Originally Posted by Calatilla

Yea you're right, but it still makes me face palm everytime I see SMN and/or BRD on nuking gear that RDM can't use.

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Speaking as a Summoner, I also face palm every time I see us listed on a piece of nuking gear...

I didn't read all the pages so idk if someone already posted this one or not, but:

Ark Angel weapons should not be costume items.

Yoichinoyumi needs +2-10 to strength making the best ranged slot for sam. This needs to happen.

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I'd actually like to see the Octave Club Ex/rare actually do what the kraken club does. It would be really nice.

I for one would love to see this,I took lots of death, and lots of no drop before i got mine back in the day, and now it just sits all useless.....just sayin.

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I would like to see Colorless Souls attainable in some other fashion. I'm one of those crazy people who search a zone first, to see if someone is camping those mobs. If so, then I don't go. However it is clear that no one else likes to extend the same courtesy to anyone else. Not to mention, lately we have spent 2+ hours simply trying to change our abyssite from a colorful to a T3 pop!

I have trophies that mean nothing. They are worthless. I can assure you that if I could buy souls with those trophies, I'd spend a lot more time on NM's rather than fighting a gillion people in 3 zones to pop one of 3 mobs.

I have dominion notes that are close to worthless. I'd gladly to more dom ops to exchange notes for souls.

The concept of T3 mobs for empy items was great, the problem is that you need 75 drops, per person on that trial, and there is only 3 mobs to get them from, and you have only 3 mobs to get the pops from. And people have absolutely zero respect for other people.

To be clear, I don't mind the trial, I mind the extreme amount of fighting that ensues to finish the trial. Keep the 75 souls as a trial, but make them purchasable in some abyssea related fashion. Insert a trial that requires killing the T3 either a certain # of times, or for some other 1 time r/ex drop attainable with a blue proc.



This a hundred times this.

Just reiteration mostly but thief's knife needs a trial for higher damage and possibly another +1 to TH like AF 2 +2 hands. Zilart earring and COP rings need to further scale. I would like to see optical hat get a magian trial to 99 as well. Ofcourse I like the idea of the Octave club being exactly like the KC other then it would be camped heavily and almost impossible to get one much like KC was back in the day but still better then the current situation. I would not mind seeing sky gear get trials as well, hate to sound like a broken record but it would be nice..

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Originally Posted by Hops

Just reiteration mostly but thief's knife needs a trial for higher damage and possibly another +1 to TH like AF 2 +2 hands.

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I'll just keep saying this, but if we have a TK upgrade, the only change will be that the upgrade + lower-level TK will be demanded from THF, rather than just "best weapon + TK"- and even as an upgrade, the "TK+1" would be inferior in damage-dealing to a normal weapon of the same level. We're wanted for the improved odds of shinies dropping when we go stabbity, the damage inflicted is a sideshow- and if we have two weapons that +TH wieldable at the same time, then people will require it of us to maximize drops.

Octave was never meant to be another KClub, it was designed to be a limited use, inferior version. Seeing some of the older "classic" gear getting trial upgrades I do like, though. It'd let people had an oldschool look with level-appropriate stats.

Fishing bait need to be changed when crafting.
Bluetail crafts 4 peices.
At stack is now 99 instead of 12
it takes 24 bluetail to create a stack of sliced bluetail.
24 bluetail times 7,000 gil at ah is a might expensive.

even when farming them myself it is cutting into the fishing cap way to much.

Please change this fast!

Let me correct one thing....

I'm asking for a plus 1 2 3 and 4 for slices of bluetail. Not really asking for it to be changed..

and other stackable baits plz

Ok, I speak for A LOT of people when I say that we need some sort of confirmation on Relic/Mythic/Empyrean weapons and whether they are getting a massive overhaul or what. The screenshot I am providing is fuel to our fire.

http://www.ffxiah.com/screenshots/70514

All I can say is...um what? In one week, someone can, without any effort, obtain a Great Axe that destroys!!! anything before it with pure damage. Yes, I realize no aftermath and other sorts but I mean come on...R/M/E is supposed to be cream of the crop due to the effort put into it. If players want to complain about not getting invites to events because they don't possess such weapons...then make one! I hate to complain like this on here but man, I speak for a lot of people that we either need some information on what is to happen with our weapons or are they remaining the same.

Anytime I complain, I feel I should present some sort of suggestion for a solution. I am no video game programmer so I have no clue how feasible this is, but, I don't see why R/M/E weapons can't have their damage just beefed up to match the new weapons WITHOUT trials...making two 99 relics was bad enough for me. That's all I can really come up with but, once again, I don't know how realistic that is. All I know is, a lot of people are unjustly getting "the shaft" for no real reason (seemingly) at the moment. TL: DR sorry but that's my rant. Thank you have a nice day.

So basically some assclown in pink gear can get lucky in a new event and obtain a better weapon than someone who has worked months for it? If they do make adjustments to r/m/e weapons through trials these people then get to spend more time trying to make a weapon better AGAIN? Makes perfect sense!

I would like to see One Handed R/M/E weapons made useable in the offhand. Almace in offhand and still be able to use CDC atleast and lose the aftermath or keep CDC and aftermath in the offhand.