What new Jug Pets would you like to see 91-99?

I wonder if there tallying our lists as we speak. Camate should post a top 5 list based off the poll so far. Also i would like Pugils/Jagils added to the list.

hell if SE gave me a slim and pugil jug pet I would totally forgive them for making cloudsplitter unusable

The top 5 jugs i want are:

1. Puk
2. VNM Crab (the one with the barnacles and rocks and such on it)
3. Opo opo
4. Slime/Clot
5. Pugil/Jagil

I'll settle for any unique design for a jug pet like CourierCarrie though.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Koroma

There are pets id rather see like all the ones i meantioned on page 14 but why wouldnt you want to see a slime? It's been bsts favorite lvling pet since time began.

---

I'm pretty certain most people who are picking slimes haven't really put much thought into how that pet would fit into the current game world. Think about the Leech and Coeurl pets, people have been wanting them for a long time but when they were released (with exception to leech's water resist ) no one really cares about them.

The way I see it, the only good use for slime is for tanking. But at level 95 in abyssea we don't need a Slime pet.. its over kill. Anything you can solo now is a breeze at 95, Some NMs no longer even require you to use DG, you can get by with just PDT gear and Regen atma alone. The Slime might open up some choices for you to use offensive atmas for some of the high NMs but again... if you can solo these NMs now, at 95 they're a joke, you don't need a slime. Most of the NMs off limit to use now is because they spam magic damage which is a major problem with slime's very low HP and magic defense, so they would be near useless in those fights.

Outside of abyssea you have Voidwatch to look forward to and I don't see a slime tank being anything more than a decoy for these NMs. Besides SE already stated they may be giving us a Adamontoise crab pet.... how many tanks do you guys want!?

Actually... here's an idea. Maybe they could use all of them? Sort of in line with the idea for a jug that spits out a random critter, though not that exactly. It could be set up more like a chocobo whistle. A player has to choose which pet they want to use, and when they use the 99 jug it summons what they went with from the list. Maybe have acquiring each pet be a mini-quest, and then you can set your jug at an NPC from what you've unlocked. Or maybe if the devs wanted to make it a little less trivial to change, require the player to go fetch certain items related to what they want to use, give them to the hypothetical npc, and that would lock in what the 99 jug calls out. If you wanted to try something else/change back, you'd need more items(same sort of deal as changing your fellow's weapon, essentially).

• Chigoe
• Hippogryph
• Karkinos (Crab)
• Orobon
• Hecteyes
• Rafflesia
• Slime
• Ruszor

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mavrick

I'm pretty certain most people who are picking slimes haven't really put much thought into how that pet would fit into the current game world. Think about the Leech and Coeurl pets, people have been wanting them for a long time but when they were released (with exception to leech's water resist ) no one really cares about them.

The way I see it, the only good use for slime is for tanking. But at level 95 in abyssea we don't need a Slime pet.. its over kill. Anything you can solo now is a breeze at 95, Some NMs no longer even require you to use DG, you can get by with just PDT gear and Regen atma alone. The Slime might open up some choices for you to use offensive atmas for some of the high NMs but again... if you can solo these NMs now, at 95 they're a joke, you don't need a slime. Most of the NMs off limit to use now is because they spam magic damage which is a major problem with slime's very low HP and magic defense, so they would be near useless in those fights.

Outside of abyssea you have Voidwatch to look forward to and I don't see a slime tank being anything more than a decoy for these NMs. Besides SE already stated they may be giving us a Adamontoise crab pet.... how many tanks do you guys want!?

---

The slime opens up options in many situations for different atma and gear combo's. Slimes don't have a weakness to magic. They just don't have any extra resistance against magic and there weak element is fire and there strong element is water.

Outside abyssea it gives us the chance to cap pdt with a pet and still have the same mdt as we had on other pets.

We don't know what a slime jugs hp will be and we don't know how well any of the proposed pets will perform. Jug pets have a history of performing NOTHING like their wild counterparts. They are either extremely better than there wild counterparts or extremely weaker. It is pretty useless to surmise witch way it will go.

But fundamentally, a slime is not as awful a choice as you imply.

P.S. funny story, I solo'd Charybdis with a lvl 65 mousse back at lvl 80. I reached the pdt cap at the time of 100% on blunt b4 ducal guard existed. And was playing around on every NM and monster that did blunt dmg, in every zone that had a slime. It was silly but fun =)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Limecat

Actually... here's an idea. Maybe they could use all of them? Sort of in line with the idea for a jug that spits out a random critter, though not that exactly. It could be set up more like a chocobo whistle. A player has to choose which pet they want to use, and when they use the 99 jug it summons what they went with from the list. Maybe have acquiring each pet be a mini-quest, and then you can set your jug at an NPC from what you've unlocked. Or maybe if the devs wanted to make it a little less trivial to change, require the player to go fetch certain items related to what they want to use, give them to the hypothetical npc, and that would lock in what the 99 jug calls out. If you wanted to try something else/change back, you'd need more items(same sort of deal as changing your fellow's weapon, essentially).

---

I Like this idea and actually suggested something similar in the OP of the "Pet Shop" thread.

I said " Also, on a side note, I have always thought it would be neat to have a beastmaster AF quest line which upon completion would reward a beastmaster with a choice of a personalized pet from a list of more rare types of monsters. Ex. Kraken, opo-opo, hex eye, ect. "

I love your more detailed idea. Especially the part about being able to trash your choice and re-do the quest to make a new selection. I hope LOTS MORE poeple hit the like button on limecat's post.

from the list it would be
Hippogryph
Scolopendrid(with hell scissors maybe with run wild or whatever)
Slime(was always fun mischarming these back in the day)
Hanuman
Ruszcor.

Now back to the Beast Strength Chart, we are missing some in certain areas. consider giving us
Hound or Doomed type mobs for undead.
Bomb/Snoll/Dijinn/Cluster for Arcana
Puk for Dragon
Ahriman or Tauri for Demon
Fifth Ecosystem No comment, not sure it would matter, would be nice to have a shark from sea tho and a soccer ball to play around with lol

I do like the idea of Guttler/Aymur getting their own exclusive jugs, my idea for them would be one of them each being able to call Kyo/Pya, which are Rocs, they are pets of Lhu Mhakaracca(guttler owner npc) I would def turn in my Ogre Killer and key items for it lol.

I would much rather have Charm back in my arsenal than fake pets but whatever.
I also understand the astral flow type of ja or whatever, I am good with it, I believe those HNM/exclusive mobs that we Currently CAN NOT CHARM should only be used with that JA.

I am done nn

It seems like few bst recognize the the real dd potential for a scorpion jug. Its not just in the really nice Death Scissors or Hell Scissors move, although that is really awesome.

Its this little ability:
Sharp Strike: 50% Attack Boost. 4 minute 15 second duration.

Do you have any idea how big a 50% attack boost is!? Even w/out the boost, go ahead into one of the abyssea zones w/ some scorpions. Compare how they eat at your atma buffed pets compared to other mobs.

Scorpions are SERIOUSLY tough even before these great DD boosting ready moves. We have several various tank pets that are really cool now. Yuly the eva tank, Nazuna has HUGE hp pool, fargann (and Gerard soon) for water magic resist tanking, Broncha seems the highest general magic resist(imo probably due to high int) and a incoming Adamantoise pet sounds like a supertank to me.

Really we have this wonderful swissarmy-knife selection of jugs gathering together. I"d love to see the niches filled and the most important niche we could really use is a Damage dealer. Run wild just doesn't seem to be fulfilling my expectations yet here. (mainly because I can't pin down what it does besides a big regen effect and killing your pet. I'm still really hoping there is more to it).

Scorpion and Opo-opo are my best hopes for a great DD. (opo-opo have fantastic abilities, and if its based off hanuman.... thats even better)

If slime gets to keep its full natural resistances, slime is #1

But, since I don't expect it to (see slug on test server).

0. Slime (if it keeps phys resists)
1. Scolopendrid (will need a new pet with +Attack after sheep)
2. Hippogryph (we'll need a new THF and we still lack a bird)
3. Ruszor (if it keeps some of the good tp moves)
4. Rafflesia (same as Ruszor, or if it's a WAR w/triple attack race trait)
5. Chigoe (assuming they don't explode easily like the wild ones)

I never actually put in my vote in here, so included is a link to a visual aid to help anyone who is on the fence for which pet we definitely need - scorpion please.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...b34n/moosh.png

• Chloris (Mandragora) YES

• Hippogryph Hmmm, Heck yeah why not. They have nice TP moves

• Karkinos (Crab) HELL YEAH GIMMIE BUBBABIGCRAB NAO

• Scolopendrid (Scorpion) I always wanted a scorpion

• Red crab Those are the ones that cast magic, yes? Well Currier needs a upgrade

• Hecteyes YES! They would be great jog pets, magic casting jugs Yes please


• Rafflesia A Beastmaster type mob being a Jug? I wonder what would be the TP moves since we know it won't charm nearby things

• Slime Tank pet FTW yes! Slimes are excellent pets for BSTs You should really tell them to make us a Slime Pet

• Hanuman (Opo-opo) Give it AoE Magic fruit and I'll be a little happy

• Ruszor Hell yeah, they have annoying TP moves

You're missing a few that would be perfect.
Kraken
Diremite
Morbols
Uragnites
Poroggo instead of a stupid toad

How about giving empy axe holders a unique jug as well as relic and mythic. Not like its useful otherwise <_<. I don't think anyone would complain.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Areola

How about giving empy axe holders a unique jug as well as relic and mythic. Not like its useful otherwise <_<. I don't think anyone would complain.

---

I agree. Let Relic, Mythic and Empy all have the same "call beast jug" effect. And w.e the pet is that is called, it should have a baby chocobo riding on top. (Kinda like the baby chocobo from /jobemote SMN) That'd be super cool and fun to look at, after all it all started with a chocobo...

for level 99 we should get Buffalo,dragons(wivre or w/e) hippogryph or someting of an equal size and equally rare ingame just to make a statement, this mob shows you are a level 99 BST with no need to check, special moves would be a bonus but just give them decent lvl 99 HP and I would be happy



BST FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That will probably be the turtle jug.

Man, tons of votes up in here!

After looking over each and every one of your posts, it's a super super close call between:

-Ruszor
-Slime

Please vote on one or the other and let's see which pet comes out on top :)

Close contenders are below:
-Hippogryph
-Karkinos
-Hanuman

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camate

Man, tons of votes up in here!

After looking over each and every one of your posts, it's a super super close call between:

-Ruszor
-Slime

Please vote on one or the other and let's see which pet comes out on top :)

Close contenders are below:
-Hippogryph
-Karkinos
-Hanuman

---

What?! >.> We got to pick one between those two... This is going to be difficult. I think I'm going to have to vote for... Slime i think.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camate

Man, tons of votes up in here!

After looking over each and every one of your posts, it's a super super close call between:

-Ruszor
-Slime

Please vote on one or the other and let's see which pet comes out on top :)

Close contenders are below:
-Hippogryph
-Karkinos
-Hanuman

---

Can you please give more details about these jugs?

Will ruzor keep his water absorption?
Will Ruzor keep Hydro Blast and Frozen mist?

Will the slime keep his 75% blunt and 50% pierce and slash resistance?
What TP Moves will the slime end up with?
Will it have endrain like the natural clot's do?

What TP moves will the hippogryph end up getting?


Will Hanuman keep his spellcasting?
Will Hanuman Keep his ensilence?
What TP moves will hanuman end up with?


What changes will be made to karkinos?
What TP moves will he get?



It's very frustrating. Everyone is voting based on the current strength of the wild counterparts of these options. But its highly likely that these listings will not be anywhere near the strength of their wild counterparts. Please give us a little bit more info on this narrowed down selection. In the long run you will avoid a lot of RAGE. Think of how many mad bsts there will be if they voted in a useless ruszor thinking it was going to be at full power. Only to find out that half of his TP moves werent available.

It's like a politician who says one thing to get voted in but does another thing once he is in office.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camate

Man, tons of votes up in here!

After looking over each and every one of your posts, it's a super super close call between:

-Ruszor
-Slime

Please vote on one or the other and let's see which pet comes out on top :)

---

I hate to pester you to pester the development team, but this seems like it would affect the decision made by a lot of people. Would the Ruszors have the full range of normal Ruszor TP attacks or would the unique defensive TP moves (Hydro Blast, Frozen Mist, Hydro Wave) be either removed or profoundly weakened?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camate

-Ruszor
-Slime

Please vote on one or the other and let's see which pet comes out on top :)

---

SLIME!
Altough honestly if you give us a Karkinoss (Courier Carrie+2!) pet then I might want a Ruzsor instead.

Quote:

---

Close contenders are below:
-Hippogryph
-Karkinos
-Hanuman

---

Karkinos!!

If Ruszor will have Frozen Mist, Hydro Wave, and Hydro Blast, and will have the excact same effects as wild Ruszor, then I vote Ruszor.

If not I vote slime then.

You don't have to just vote between slime and ruszor. He was just listing the top 2 in the polls. He ALSO listed runner ups.

Also considering chances are that ruszors are gonna be nerfed to hell and back, Ruszor is in the top slot under false pretenses.

Out of the stuff listed i choose hippogryph. Because its the only one they can't nerf into uselessnes. BUT my heart wants a gosh darn opo-opo ; ; in the back of my mind im hoping Camate tells us that Hanuman does get to keep ensilence just in time for everyone to change there vote to hanuman.

Damn hard pick I want both if forced to pick then a Slime!

Ruszor! We Tarus need more things to summon/control that are like 10x our size :D

Slime for sure out of those 2. Huge pets are horrible always in the way. Why not add a real poll to the forums where you can only pick 1 choice?

Its like @75 the HQ antlion was a great pet but was so big no one used it.

If the Ruszors still have that absurdly high Attack, I'll take the Ruszor.

Between the 3 contenders, Karkinos sounds really good. Besides, we need a new Crab to succeed Carrie.

I take Ruszor because we already going to have a tank pet in the turtle jug we are getting. There is no way they will keep the resistance on the slime, no bloody way.

The ruszor has some good TP moves even if others get nerfed, defense down, paralyze. What does slime have, just crap. their drains will get resisted most of the time.

i would vote for Ruszor but its fairly large... idk if i want bst lagging me with them. i would think slime would be a very strong pet, but cant you already charm them?

i vote monkey (hanuman w/e) they got magic fruit

I voted hippogrif first round, and that still my number 1 vote.

Forced between those 2, coocookachoo, I'll take the walrus. Ruzsor.

I can just see it now, we will get a slime because the majority of people forget this is SE and not realize, of course they are going to nerf the crap out of the slimes inherent resistance. We will get a slime jug that has very crappy tp moves, does little damage and gets its ass kicked. No one will use it.
Then everyone that voted for slime will get all angry because they didn't think before they acted and regret not choosing another jug.

What we need is a jug with good magical resistance, because those nms kick our butts, unless we put on magic defense atma and gimp our damage.

is there any good general magic defense mobs on original list?

Well, lets look at Jug stats in general. All jugs are pretty much a slightly weaker version of their wild counter parts. (new jugs closed the gap alot but its still aparent.) Now if u figure in the mob stats between the top two.
Ruszor has: Crazy high atk and HP ratings (more than a sheep.) but basicly no outstanding draw backs other than its large size and we all SE can /bite size mobs now.
Slime has: Mega low HP and mega damage resistance.

So if u add the mobs + jug stats together you'll end up with
Ruszor having High attack and HP and some vicious TP moves even with out the added effect.
Slime having: Very low HP and most likely Lower defence. Even if they keep the physical resistances
almost every NM in the game has Magic or a Magic ability or an En-spell or a Spike effect that will Tear the
slime apart.

My Vote: Ruszor

out of the runner ups I'd take Hippo as we need a new THF jug

Ruszor, obviously.

I'll go with Ruszor, but I would like a follow-up post, I think we all want one. We are skeptical about whether the ruszor will be as strong as a natural one or if slime will be resilient as a natural one.

Ruszor, just due to the fact that I hated farming them for Sub-zero Smash :D

Ruszor o.ob

ruszor, definitely.

HANUMAN!!!

Between Slim and Ruszor usefulness, it's pretty silly to make us decide when we have no idea how they will actually function.

Ruszor

Hippogryph

Ruszor please

IF its not going to be scorpion, then PLEASE go for hanuman.

there is really no need for a slime at this point.