Please don't nerf beastmaster

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Originally Posted by scaevola

Running around in Escha. MAB and -DT augments are giving me more AoE than a BLM with the survivability of a less-than-amazing-or-maybe-just-lazy PLD. It's dumb.

I don't think it's bad; it's a little annoying when I'm grinding silt but oh well, who cares? Reducing the single target via nerfing pet skillchains seems like a fair trade, though, which is all it sounds like they're planning on doing. I'm here to defend that decision.

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So you're idea of ruining game balance is being better than some jobs at killing Even match monsters? /smh

Yes, BLM can blow stuff up nonstop in escha just like bst. I do it all the time. I've actually been GMd twice by JP players for hogging all the pops on BLM and BLU. You pull out healer /support trusts, throw up stoneskin, aquaveil and phalanx, put on your movement+ gear, train a bunch of mobs, engage one until your healer trust cures back whatever damage you took during the pull and then aga them all. Just like beast. There are also better camps outside escha where BLM can just run around one shotting things even better CP than BST can get in escha.

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Originally Posted by scaevola

Why?

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Because even if your NQ stones somehow got you near max augments, that magic damage set you described isn't gonna outparse any DD job on anything but farming fodder in escha. And even if it magically somehow did, your pet would just die without the DT- stats on your gear. You might as well say ninja is over powered because it can proc stuff in abyssea.

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Originally Posted by machini

"oh hey this BST who has 100/+ million gil worth of gear, two different COR buffs, and GEO buff and debuff on target is outdamaging my sparks 117 SAM on 119/+ content. THIS IS NOT FAIR SAM IS THE BEST"

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Except other jobs put the same amount of effort and gil into them.

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Originally Posted by Draylo-

Except other jobs put the same amount of effort and gil into them.

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And they do more damage.

but no, my monk, sam, thf, dnc, and rng were far cheaper to gear. My DT- set on BST cost more my SAM, MNK, THF and DNC combined. And my pet still doesn't outdamage them. It's just situationally safer. As was already stated, I'm screwed if the mob has curse, doom, break, etc.

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Originally Posted by machini

Dude, I'm not desperate to save BST. My BST is level 15.

What I am sick and tired of is people who don't know a job, don't play a job, don't understand the job, who see a job doing well, and throw a hissy fit and get it nerfed because they're bad players.

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Really seems like it man, you are posting multiple times in this thread over and over. People are allowed to give their opinion, even if its in opposition to what you think. The dev's know what they wanna do with the game. If you are implying I'm one of those people, then you are mistaken.

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Originally Posted by bazookatooth

And they do more damage.

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No they don't actually. If you mean to say in Escha that a geared to the max BST w/a tank present can't outparse over half of the DDs in the game all the while sitting back comfortably tossing pet heals, you don't know whats going on.

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Originally Posted by Draylo-

No they don't actually. If you mean to say in Escha that a geared to the max BST w/a tank present can't outparse over half of the DDs in the game all the while sitting back comfortably tossing pet heals, you are delusional.

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A geared to the max anything should be able to outparse half the other DDS. Why the hell would they want to build the game in a way that causes some jobs to suck no matter how well geared / played they are? That's stupid.

Okay, do I really have to spell everything out? A geared to the max BST vs geared to the max other jobs. It doesn't have to suck, it needs to just be toned down. Look at THF and what happened to them, seems SE already got the message and they are planning adjustments to BST.

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Because even if your NQ stones somehow got you near max augments, that magic damage set you described isn't gonna outparse any DD job on anything but farming fodder in escha. And even if it magically somehow did, your pet would just die without the DT- stats on your gear. You might as well say ninja is over powered because it can proc stuff in abyssea.

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I have basic DT stats.

I can only speak from my own experience; I went with MAB augs to try it and I don't want to bother making a physical stat set since that would involve getting a whole new set and spending more money I'd prefer to save. I'm sure it'd be just as easy to get Randy going if I did.

It ended up "costing" me a couple million in opportunity (I bank my NQs) to get 10+ MAB and some DT (duskorbs are rather expensive, even for NQs, so i wasn't picky) on six pieces. If I cared enough to spend 100 million gil to get, what, 50 more MAB and 15 more DT, I'm sure I'd feel compelled to defend the job, too.

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Originally Posted by Draylo-

Okay, do I really have to spell everything out? A geared to the max BST vs geared to the max other jobs. It doesn't have to suck, it needs to just be toned down. Look at THF and what happened to them, seems SE already got the message and they are planning adjustments to BST.

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Why? I'm not having any problems getting invited on literally any other job right now, but DNC or PUP. Isn't that the point of balance? So that people can enjoy the content on the jobs they like? It sounds to me like you just want your favorite job to be the best. What happened with THF was stupid. it didn't do anything but piss off a bunch of THFs. It didn't balance the game in the slightest.

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Originally Posted by scaevola

I have basic DT stats.

I can only speak from my own experience; I went with MAB augs to try it and I don't want to bother making a physical stat set since that would involve getting a whole new set and spending more money I'd prefer to save. I'm sure it'd be just as easy to get Randy going if I did.

It ended up "costing" me a couple million in opportunity (I bank my NQs) to get 10+ MAB and some DT (duskorbs are rather expensive, even for NQs, so i wasn't picky) on six pieces. If I cared enough to spend 100 million gil to get, what, 50 more MAB and 15 more DT, I'm sure I'd feel compelled to defend the job, too.

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And you're not going to even come close to out damaging anyone with that set, so your pretty much disproved your own theory.