Oh by the way, pet TH gear?

Exactly, had he have said:

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These pets will have a base of Treasure Hunter I, but we are currently looking into adding equipment that has “Pet: Treasure Hunter +” so that the effect will become stronger.

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Then it wasn't a promise, as it was posted however was as good as a promise. However, it seems it was simply used so they could argue it's been positive from the BST pro and con camps for the nerf due to the pro crowd believing gear would be added so not kicking up such a fuss.

What I'll imagine will come will be something to cover them like: Mistranslation, the post actually said "We've decided not to add it"

But this will be just a cover for the blatant lie just posted.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

You idiots read anything as a promise. They never said:

"We promise to give you Pet TH gear."

The post stated: "By using..."

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I hope English isn't your first language... If you read what was quoted about Pet: TH+ gear you would read it as a promise. If this:

※These pets will have a base of Treasure Hunter I, but by using equipment that has “Pet: Treasure Hunter +” the effect will become stronger.

Said this:

※These pets will have a base of Treasure Hunter I, but we might look into using equipment that has “Pet: Treasure Hunter +” the effect will become stronger.

Or something similar it wouldn't have been taken as a promise. Note the use of "might" means it isn't intended to be read as a fact/promise and the player base would be foolish to do so.

In the English language the word promise doesn't have to be used for it to be something that can be taken as a promise, just FYI.

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Originally Posted by Zagen

I hope English isn't your first language... If you read what was quoted about Pet: TH+ gear you would read it as a promise. If this:

※These pets will have a base of Treasure Hunter I, but by using equipment that has “Pet: Treasure Hunter +” the effect will become stronger.

Said this:

※These pets will have a base of Treasure Hunter I, but we might look into using equipment that has “Pet: Treasure Hunter +” the effect will become stronger.

Or something similar it wouldn't have been taken as a promise. Note the use of "might" means it isn't intended to be read as a fact/promise and the player base would be foolish to do so.

In the English language the word promise doesn't have to be used for it to be something that can be taken as a promise, just FYI.

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Quoted for truth, I could have just liked it, but it doesn't do enough justice to this post.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

You idiots read anything as a promise. They never said:

"We promise to give you Pet TH gear."

The post stated: "By using..."

That doesn't mean "we promise to give you the gear." it means if and/or when they introduce it, it will enhance it just like using Pet: (attribute) enhances thing, it wasn't a promise..Unless it's an American thing to read everything as a promise, excuse me.

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Once again, why bring it up at all then? There is no point to bring it up at all within the context of that post other than to lead (or more aptly mislead) their clients into thinking this gear would be introduced.

@Arcon -Way to paint everyone with a broad stroke, I could say the same things about the arrogance of PLDs, but that doesn't make it true or relevant. I probably don't need to anyway, because your post does it for me.

BTW, my friend pointed out seeing a PLD holding 10 mobs in Dynamis using Aeolian Edge to proc. I submit we should start a campaign to nerf PLD, because clearly they are overpowered and ruining dynamis for everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Phogg

Once again, why bring it up at all then? There is no point to bring it up at all within the context of that post other than to lead (or more aptly mislead) their clients into thinking this gear would be introduced.

@Arcon -Way to paint everyone with a broad stroke, I could say the same things about the arrogance of PLDs, but that doesn't make it true or relevant. I probably don't need to anyway, because your post does it for me.

BTW, my friend pointed out seeing a PLD holding 10 mobs in Dynamis using Aeolian Edge to proc. I submit we should start a campaign to nerf PLD, because clearly they are overpowered and ruining dynamis for everyone else.

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That's a terrible example considering that it's the story of 1 well-geared PLD vs a ton of perle bandwagon BSTs. (the pld doesn't get TH by the way).

I don't care if all BST players aren't as retarded as the ones I run into, but I've met so many assholes that play the job, that they've just ruined the job for me and now I'm just automatically happy anytime anything bad is announced for BST.

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Originally Posted by Zagen

I hope English isn't your first language...

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It isn't, it's my first "universal" language.

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In the English language the word promise doesn't have to be used for it to be something that can be taken as a promise, just FYI.

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This is why it didn't make sense, because I didn't see the word "promise" used at all.

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Originally Posted by Eric

That's a terrible example considering that it's the story of 1 well-geared PLD vs a ton of perle bandwagon BSTs. (the pld doesn't get TH by the way).

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Just pointing out they would or rather should be on PLD/THF if they're edge proc farming. It's still a combo that takes time to build up and is inferior to BST/DNC from what I've read (could be wrong though) so ya still a terrible example.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

This is why it didn't make sense, because I didn't see the word "promise" used at all.

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The way it is worded is considered a statement. Statements are taken as factual or as a promise.
For example:

I will go in to work tomorrow.

Is read the exact same as:

I promise to go to work tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Eric

That's a terrible example considering that it's the story of 1 well-geared PLD vs a ton of perle bandwagon BSTs. (the pld doesn't get TH by the way).

I don't care if all BST players aren't as retarded as the ones I run into, but I've met so many assholes that play the job, that they've just ruined the job for me and now I'm just automatically happy anytime anything bad is announced for BST.

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Because that's a mature attitude.

Also, how do you know how they were geared? Maybe they were a perle wearing PLD? The main point remains, anyone can be a prick in this game, and their job has nothing to do with that.

Just ask any career BST who had their exp camps invaded by normy parties back in the day (despite setting their search to indicate their camp location, something us BSTs used to do to help not waste the time of another BST that might travel to that camp and find it occupied, clearly we are all pricks), you think those people cared about the lowly BST? No, because there were so few they didn't need to care. They would not do that to another party, at least not often, but it happened regularly to BSTs.

I'm a very well geared BST, I even waste inventory on my charm set hoping one day I might be able to play my job again in some semblance of its original style. I've been playing the job for about 8+ years now. We finally have ONE THING we can say we are good at, and everyone wants to take that ONE THING away because, ironically, NON-BSTs are exploiting it.....usually the same people who get some sort of twisted joy out of bashing BSTs, which is not a new thing, its been happening for the entirety of the game's existence.

Which is why I find this all both absurd and amusing at the same time. Before the dynamis change, we were gimps that should be overlooked in any end game content. Now, just because of one thing, we are suddenly overpowered and need to be nerfed, when in reality the job has not changed at all, dynamis changed. My BST is stuck at 96 because I just use it for fun anymore and to play around with my Octave club. We're so incredibly overpowered that I almost never use my favorite job in favor of my other, more useful options....

Find something more rational to be mad about. Despite my top notch gear and love of the job, I actually farm dynamis as THF, and I get by just fine regardless of how many BSTs are around. Not sure what everyone else's problem is.

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Originally Posted by Zagen

Just pointing out they would or rather should be on PLD/THF if they're edge proc farming. It's still a combo that takes time to build up and is inferior to BST/DNC from what I've read (could be wrong though) so ya still a terrible example.

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How is it a terrible example? There is competition for mobs in dynamis, and people mostly get mad because BSTs can hold multiple mobs. Well, so can PLD. What exactly is the difference? Their kill speed doesn't make any difference, what people get upset about is the holding of mobs, hence the example.