pay to restore. LoLoLoLoL
Stop losing items accidentally. That's all there is to it. It takes enough effort to throw away an item that nobody should mess it up. The whole reason a restriction is in place is to ensure that it cannot be abused. The item restore shouldn't even be used unless you've lost stuff to unauthorized access (without a security token, since the security token allows you to be restored without counting against that limit if the account is breached) or lost something that absoliutely cannot be replaced through any in game effort (e.g. something you can only obtain once ever).
I would not pay $5 to replace a lost item. I'd suck it up and get the item again.
That cannot cause that. The item was thrown away, and he had a screenshot which showed it.Quote:
Were you using that windower addon that sorts items?
Change of the 1 time restore policy
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01-21-2012, 10:51 AMAlhanelem
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01-21-2012, 01:52 PMfrozenbear
I have never used my one time item restore in 9+ yrs on the game for any of my char's, and after reading your story i think i should be allowed to give you mine. so tell the GM's to give you your item back and put it on my tab :(. sorry for your loss.
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01-21-2012, 04:53 PMVagrua
A once a year item/character restoral wouldn't hurt. I would pay for the service if I had to. I'm sure others would too.
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01-21-2012, 11:25 PMUnleashhell
Not only should it be once a year but I think it should accrue from how many years you been playing if you never used the service or haven't used it in the past year. If you been playing for 8 years you should have a possible 8 times something can be restored. Personally I don't think that's asking much when pay month after month year after year. Mistakes will happen from time to time and player shouldn't feel like they lost something they worked hard for.
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01-22-2012, 01:45 AMFrankReynolds
I think people are missing the point. He didn't say "I hit drop item on a prism powder, and the log said I dropped an almace."
He said "I hit sort, and the log said I dropped an almace."
Whether he actually hit "sort" or "drop" only he really knows. The fact remains that it is a R/E item that he had in his possession. It cannot be sold or traded. There is absolutely no way to abuse the system by restoring it. SE just doesn't do it because they don't want to have to do it for a bunch of other people. It all boils down to whether or not SE wants to staff the people to perform the restore, which they apparently don't. I personally think they should just schedule a restore once every 3 months, and tell people that they will review lost R/E items once every 3 months.
Anyone who has ever gonna to FFXIAH.com knows that they log all your gear. Restoring R/E items should be as simple as checking if you ever had it, and if you did, sending it to your delivery box. Its not like you can have 2 of the same R/E item. As far as the whole "Don't drop things" argument goes....Shut up. -
01-22-2012, 02:17 AMTamoaQuote:
Originally Posted by FrankReynolds
It's all a bit odd - if the OP did indeed drop the Almace, he'd have to 1) have the Almace highlighted, and 2) confirm he wanted to drop it. If his auto sort is set to off, Almace would be at the bottom of his inventory as he received it. And he does say he was at the top of his inventory when he hit "sort".
I guess it's impossible to tell whether he's being 100% truthful or not. However, I don't see what exactly he has to gain by posting about this incident here, if it was just him screwing up and accidentally dropping the Almace.
I also think the restore policy needs changing. It should be possible to restore a lost empyrean weapon (mythic and relic too) as it's a hell of a lot of work down the drain if you mess up. And a once-per-year restore doesn't sound half bad either. -
01-22-2012, 02:49 AMZerich
you would've had to of had multiple confirmations for dropping the item that's ra/ex/whatever. they put those confirmations there for a reason.
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01-22-2012, 08:19 AMSerihaIn this particular case work had been done, but either in an accident or bug, poof, work invalidated. I'm not advocating the creating of Free Stuff(tm) to anyone that can throw a good sob story at a GM. I'm advocating SE protect and support their customers from accidents or even malicious attacks.Quote:
You try putting yourself in the shoes of a dishonest fool, and still feel he has a point...
I'm only against giving welfare to people that can work, but don't feel like doing it.
Because wanting to aid people stuck in a helpless situation somehow translates to supporting a 15 billion dollar industry and their crusade to censor the internet under the false assumption everyone who downloaded something illegally was gonna buy their crap. Riiiiight.Quote:
And since we're exchanging wild accusations, I take it you're one of those PIPA/SOPA supporters then?
"I'm sorry, judge. If you saw what she was wearing, you would've raped her too!"Quote:
SE does have special toolkits to determine malicious activities, but don't underestimate the cost involved. It can cost hundreds of dollars to run a full analysis. So they only want to focus on those cases where the user has done as much as possible to prevent nasty things from happening in the first place.
Quit blaming the victim. SE has every ounce of ability to remedy these situations, nor does it cost hundreds of dollars. Token or not, anyone who's burned twice is SOL. Just because I had my car broken into a few years back and called the cops about it should not preclude me from future police assistance should I need it.
Point still missed, sorry.Quote:
In the OP's case, the damage isn't even permanent. He used his first restore, didn't learn his lesson, so he pays the price.
He can just request the sword. and hopefully take better care of it next time.
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01-23-2012, 05:38 AMSayomi
I have no place to ask for this because of my own stupidity but I wasted my one time restore on something horrendously easy to acquire but when the time came when I accidentally tossed my own Black Belt I worked hard on getting I could do nothing about it and I would not remake another character for it because my character means alot to me, I even went through the trouble of making a relic weapon. You can't redo Beatin around the Bushin or id have done it by now I wish it was re-questable but its not so changing the one time restore policy would be fantastic I love MNK. So thats my story, sad and stupid, I'm well aware -_-.
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01-23-2012, 05:58 PMKristalThe one-time restore policy protects against accidents, not stupidity. And SE has put forth measures to protect people against malicious attacks, the security token is a very powerful tool for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seriha
I thought we were exchanging wild accusations?Quote:
Because wanting to aid people stuck in a helpless situation somehow translates to supporting a 15 billion dollar industry and their crusade to censor the internet under the false assumption everyone who downloaded something illegally was gonna buy their crap. Riiiiight.
I thought we were discussing unlimited restores here, not justifying salvage duping?Quote:
"I'm sorry, judge. If you saw what she was wearing, you would've raped her too!"
Oh, you can bet it costs that much. I do this kind of stuff for a living, you know...Quote:
Quit blaming the victim. SE has every ounce of ability to remedy these situations, nor does it cost hundreds of dollars. Token or not, anyone who's burned twice is SOL. Just because I had my car broken into a few years back and called the cops about it should not preclude me from future police assistance should I need it.
And again going on a wild tangent...
Oh, the point is spot on.. given that that is exactly what the OP has done.Quote:
Point still missed, sorry.
That quest not being requestable should be fixed, the belt is pretty much a vital piece on MNK. You should make a seperate topic about it in the MNK forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sayomi