Stop Player Bashing

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Originally Posted by HFX7686

This game is basically all math. Math doesn't have opinions. It's either right or wrong.

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Yes, but the ability to get certain pieces of equipment plays a role. It's very grindy to get the best gear, and sometimes players have to get by with what they can attain or afford with the resources they have.

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Originally Posted by JagerForrester

Yes, but the ability to get certain pieces of equipment plays a role. It's very grindy to get the best gear, and sometimes players have to get by with what they can attain or afford with the resources they have.

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Thats not the argument, the argument is that players have the option between a good piece and bad piece to use. They already have both pieces, but still choose to use the inferior piece.

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Originally Posted by Nepharite

I don't see why people get upset at others who offer advice to improve.
The biebs is right on this one.

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Often it is the way in which that advice is given.

When somebody says: "You're a bad player because you don't do this or that", I'm likely to not listen to them. Great Guardian is good though. He's very good at giving helpful advice to others without sounding condescending towards them.

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

lol, so you've seen my threads in General? I've never seen you post there, lol.

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Yeah. Shit's amazing. I posted there occasional, but not much. Obviously can't post anymore, since i'm banned, etc.

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

Often it is the way in which that advice is given.

When somebody says: "You're a bad player because you don't do this or that", I'm likely to not listen to them. Great Guardian is good though. He's very good at giving helpful advice to others without sounding condescending towards them.

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You can only attempt to offer correct advice so many times before its pointless.
After that, its about making the player with the incorrect mindset look bad so others don't follow their example.

Some people won't change their mindset no matter how wrong they are, so others try to make sure the correct info is out there.

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Originally Posted by Nepharite

After that, its about making the player with the incorrect mindset look bad so others don't follow their example.

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It's not up to you or anybody else to make people look bad just so others don't follow them. Why don't you let people make up their minds for themselves? I highly doubt most of you actually "care" about most people who play the game anyway. You're going to do what you do and they're going to do what they do. Like-minded people will stick together. You don't need to make the extra effort to make others look bad. People like me will just sit here and think you do it just to make yourself feel better. No thanks.

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Originally Posted by JagerForrester

Yes, but the ability to get certain pieces of equipment plays a role. It's very grindy to get the best gear, and sometimes players have to get by with what they can attain or afford with the resources they have.

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This is not true. Elitist players don't want you to have the most uber of gear. They want you to have intelligent gear. You don't need to play 12 hours a day to get nice gear, especially now with Abyssea.

As long as you keep working towards good gear and you keep your gear choices that are available to you intelligent no one would have a problem.

It's when people delibrately gimp themselves because they've got some weird idea into their heads that there is a problem.

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

It's not up to you or anybody else to make people look bad just so others don't follow them. Why don't you let people make up their minds for themselves? I highly doubt most of you actually "care" about most people who play the game anyway. You're going to do what you do and they're going to do what they do. Like-minded people will stick together. You don't need to make the extra effort to make others look bad. People like me will just sit here and think you do it just to make yourself feel better. No thanks.

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Because i don't want to see them do stupid things.

thought you were going to zzz?

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

It's not up to you or anybody else to make people look bad just so others don't follow them. Why don't you let people make up their minds for themselves? I highly doubt most of you actually "care" about most people who play the game anyway. You're going to do what you do and they're going to do what they do. Like-minded people will stick together. You don't need to make the extra effort to make others look bad. People like me will just sit here and think you do it just to make yourself feel better. No thanks.

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That's really stupid. It is up to people who know what is right to make sure that people who are wrong are not listened to nor followed.

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Originally Posted by HFX7686

That's really stupid. It is up to people who know what is right to make sure that people who are wrong are not listened to nor followed.

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Whatever. I don't listen to egotistical pricks who think they know better than everybody else and who think it's their job to make others look bad.