Balance out Empyrean Weapon Magian Trials

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Originally Posted by JiltedValkyrie

I've tanked Bukhis on BRD/NIN (DD setup) so don't gimme the whole spiel about that NM being too hard. (no brew)

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Cause BRD/NIN tanking was never a viable way to tank in the game. *Cough* BRD/NIN tanking byakko, years ago, before getting a nerf to song enmity gain *cough*

Edit: Though I do agree, theres really no difficult abyssea NMs outside of Caturaes like Rani and a few select other NMs without brews. (Mostly saying your example is bad, not your point.)

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Originally Posted by JiltedValkyrie

I've tanked Bukhis on BRD/NIN (DD setup) so don't gimme the whole spiel about that NM being too hard. (no brew)

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How much support did you have? Level of support significantly changes when a mob is hard to tank to when you have a batallion of WHMs (the JP way) and a naked SMN could tank it.

I don't know why people are complaining that Buhkis is hard. Because he is very easy to duo with monk and whm. As long as you the monk have some holy waters.

I'm upset that Chloris and Glavoid take three times longer to make pop sets for then the other nms (longer if there is competition for the time pop nm's). None of the trial NM's are difficult, I'm not implying they are, only popping them. Time has become the scarce commodity here.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I don't know why people are complaining that Buhkis is hard. Because he is very easy to duo with monk and whm. As long as you the monk have some holy waters.

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Not everyone has a MNK or a WHM. Sadly I have neither, the only jobs i know best to work with this NM is having a NIN tank with a few Avatars on it.

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Originally Posted by Miera

Not everyone has a MNK or a WHM. Sadly I have neither, the only jobs i know best to work with this NM is having a NIN tank with a few Avatars on it.

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What!? You don't have MNK or WHM?! Blasphemy!

I'm going to send a report to the elitist council this instant, you'll hear from them shortly...

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I don't know why people are complaining that Buhkis is hard. Because he is very easy to duo with monk and whm. As long as you the monk have some holy waters.

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It's not the doom it's the fact that he dispells your cruor buffs. Also it's always a possibility that he will knock you down to less than 100 HP with max HP down and then smack you again and kill you faster than the WHM can react.

I love how Dev's avoid this issue when its brought up.

By the way, I finished my Kartika path and it warned me that I wouldn't be able to hold the results of the trial (Twashtar) if I undertook the Glavoid Shells trial. It was the same warning that you get if you're trying to make an AF3+1/2 that you already have.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

It took me about a year to get mine, self funded. The amount of work it took to make that gil far outwighs anything else i've done in this game. Added to that it took a whole alliance to get the attestations and with their annoying randomness of drops and only having one shot at it per run (when we did icelands) etc compared to Emps that you can duo all the way more or less, STR magian weapons are more work.

If you looking at getting a relic and think you won't get it for around a year, that is in itself a difficultly level that scares off most. Knowing you can bash out an emp in a week or two makes it a far nicer prospect.

Regardless I don't think they will ever put relics back ontop to the level some seem to think. The whole idea for the game is now more casual and if anything they will make relics a lot easier to get and require vastly less coins.

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They already said they weren't adjusting currency requirements for relics. So how are they going to make them easier, only thing I can see happening is relics and mythics will get magian trials to take them to lvl 99, while empyreans will be left at 90 since abyssea's over and done with and will still do about the same dmg or better then a relic due to aftermath and ws mods.

As it stands for empyreans trials theres still the same lvl of balance that relics have due to currency requirments differing between each weapon, obtaining a R. gold piece is much more time consuming then obtaining a 10000 byne bill. Just like obtaining a chloris pop is more time consuming then obtaining a carrabose pop, and it's all a joke to do unless you don't have a linkshell or friends to help.

People talk about empyreans being for the casual player but the casual player without an endgame ls will not see one for a very long time, if ever.

Most of the magian trials are much more time consuming to do then empyreans, suprised noone complains about any of those trials.

Theres no issue with the time it takes to complete an empyrian, the playerbase has just become lazy with an abyssea mindset and expects everything to be handed to them now on a silver platter.