Do Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean staves lack utility?

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

In all fairness, if we're talking about pickup groups, most will accept anything with a pulse so that's not saying much for anyone.

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And those are the ones I won't go anywhere with lol.

@Al It really doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Ifrit's enfire belongs on there.

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Beat ya to it buddy must be all the caffiene stampeding through my veins atm, sorry.

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Originally Posted by Aurara

@Al It really doesn't.

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+35~ damage per strike to every melee in the party isn't worth it? really?

I don't see how that could be not worth it, honestly. You don't always need half the things on that list (e.g. healing ruby) and you could easily keep enfire up with other buffs.

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Originally Posted by Raz

Thought so It's kinda like BRD with a cooler hat, but SMN still holds it's own when you add the extra DD+support or I'd not be accepted time and again to perform this role(just my opinion based on personal experience)

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If SMNs can beat BLMs going full out at Taimat, if SMNs can beat Annihilator RNGs going full out at DI, then yeah, it's kind of like a BRD with a cooler hat. Except COR was designed with DDing mind. It has real DD gear and real DD WSs. It's better dps than a SMN, with stronger, more relevant buffs, and that's not even considering that you can /rdm or /whm and do the support role just as well as a SMN, or /war and be even more damage.

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Originally Posted by Razushu

+35~ damage per strike to every melee in the party isn't worth it? really?

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I really don't know a ton about smn, but with a dnc i think that haste samba>35 dmg per hit :x

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Originally Posted by TybudX

If SMNs can beat BLMs going full out at Taimat, if SMNs can beat Annihilator RNGs going full out at DI, then yeah, it's kind of like a BRD with a cooler hat. Except COR was designed with DDing mind. It has real DD gear and real DD WSs. It's better dps than a SMN, with stronger, more relevant buffs, and that's not even considering that you can /rdm or /whm and do the support role just as well as a SMN, or /war and be even more damage.

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yes but can they keep DD up while supporting the party AND buffing it at the same time. I'm jsut saying they can perform either 2 roles at a time better than SMN but SMN can do all 3 at the same time the Differnce in party effiency is probably low enough that while COR is the preferred job my SMN has no trouble being invited to do the same thing.

-EDIT- for the record my hastega > Blitzer's roll

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Originally Posted by Aurara

I really don't know a ton about smn, but with a dnc i think that haste samba>35 dmg per hit :x

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what about 15% haste and +35~ damage?

Well Blitzer's roll is crap anyways, and i'm fairly certain enspells and haste samba dont stack :x