Abyssea: Useful jobs and Useless jobs. Your opinions on why.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

RDM still less useful than filling that spot with a BRD considering addle/phalanx2/debuffs are generally useless when MNK can counter tank everything and carols/bar will reduce all magical damage to much much less threatening. RDM is better if your using a THF though, since -ga's will probably wipe their HP completely without a good MDT set.

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THAT i will agree on, hell SCH can do phalanx better or even make rdm aoe phalanx , phalanx II is pretty useless

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Originally Posted by Rambus

what is that?

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Pchan, aka Pimpchan on Leviathan. He posts here under MarkovChain. The majority of the endgame community has learned not to bother listening to a word he says. This is the only person I know of in the history of BG forums to be banned by popular request. Seriously, I cannot possibly explain how bad an idea it is to respond seriously to Pchan. You can try it if you want, but you'll just regret it later.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

No, BRD is not as useful as it was at 75, but it was one of the only jobs you absolutely had to have- along with rdm and whm, because Refresh was such a necessity and it's not now.

But the power of March shouldn't go unrecognized, and its just as useful, if not more useful now than it was before.

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I think I agree on this.. I can't tell I feel like this:
8:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QOya...eature=related

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Pchan, aka Pimpchan on Leviathan. He posts here under MarkovChain. The majority of the endgame community has learned not to bother listening to a word he says. This is the only person I know of in the history of BG forums to be banned by popular request. Seriously, I cannot possibly explain how bad an idea it is to respond seriously to Pchan. You can try it if you want, but you'll just regret it later.

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I wish I could..

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Just to be clear I never claim brd is any useful inside abyssea, but saying they are useless because because of yellow proc is quite dumb. The only reason to bring a brd is to double killing speed through double march which means you must kill a lot of mobs in the first place. If you camp a mob that has 15' respwan well /facepalm and there is no better melee than another (lol blu who cares about one line of spells when mobs have 15' respawn and a non zero chance to drop).

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That alone leaves me speechless, I do not know how to replay to that.

Based on whats said, I can agree now on RDM not being as useful as I originally thought

WHM, MNK, BLM, NIN, BLU BRD(maybe) and THF are the only jobs needed in Abyssea, such a shame.

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Originally Posted by svengalis

WHM, MNK, BLM, NIN, BLU BRD(maybe) and THF are the only jobs needed in Abyssea, such a shame.

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Forgot WAR, but compared to RDM/BRD/SAM being able to kill anything before Abyssea it's really an improvement. Other jobs are not as much dead weight as DDs as they used to be either, the only difference is now we could care less about adding damage as everything dies in 2 minutes anyways.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

RDM still less useful than filling that spot with a BRD considering addle/phalanx2/debuffs are generally useless when MNK can counter tank everything and carols/bar will reduce all magical damage to much much less threatening. RDM is better if your using a THF though, since -ga's will probably wipe their HP completely without a good MDT set.

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addle is useless but carol is useful, I don't get it. And no you don't "counter tank" anything, the times where you actually counter tank anything are small seeing as you spent 090% of your time procing doh. An when procing you don't counter because you don't want to kill it, simple.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

addle is useless but carol is useful, I don't get it. And no you don't "counter tank" anything, the times where you actually counter tank anything are small seeing as you spent 090% of your time procing doh. An when procing you don't counter because you don't want to kill it, simple.

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Wut. You sound so dumb right now.

Obviously whm is the only job that ppl should level, because WHM > all other jobs :)
WHM FOREVAH!

PS. this is a complete joke, so before u burn me for it, LAFF AS BOO COMMANDZ! :)